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Benjamin Button
07-08-2018, 05:24 PM
Here is a guy who only got respect from WCW. He didn't from WWE or tna in his time with them. Yet, he's taken addicts in his home to make them better. What a fucking entertainer. What a fucking man...What's your opinion of the master of the diamond cutter?

07-09-2018, 03:03 PM
Just read something really interesting about DDP... for his whole career he avoided doing flat back bumps, which Flair also always avoided doing, and despite being a lot older than other guys his body held up amazingly well. At 46 years old he came into WWE with basically no health issues. They told him to change his bumping style, and in less than a year he was so beat up he had to retire. One more point towards the greatness of DDP, practicing a sustainable style as long as he could and remaining great late into his career, which is still impressive even though he started later in life than most. If WCW hadn't closed when they did, he would have been one of the main pillars they rebuilt around, alongside Goldberg, Booker, and Steiner.

Prime Time
07-16-2018, 06:03 AM
I was a pretty big DDP fan back in 97/98, for what it's worth.

07-16-2018, 11:39 AM
He was already getting good in '95 and stayed one of the better guys in the company all the way to the end, I'd say.

Prime Time
07-17-2018, 06:07 AM
I don't know the end so well. I lost my access to Nitro some time in 1999. I enjoyed him all the way through what I saw, though.

Sort of see where you're coming from with his getting good earlier but for me the key point was the turn. Like night and day before and after that turn, in my opinion. Serviceable midcard heel to the 'real' people's champion!

07-17-2018, 05:49 PM
I won't say night and day, but the face turn was HUGE for him, and it was really organic too. A bit of forgotten genius with the early nWo.

Late WCW has a terrible reputation that's well earned, but if you want a snap shot of some real positives, check out DDP vs. Steiner on the last ever PPV. It's a wild match and makes me long for a world where WCW was able to rebuild around guys like that.

He also takes Bagwell to what I would call the singles match of his career at Souled Out '00, which is a low bar but 2000 WCW is the definition of a low bar.

Prime Time
08-16-2018, 07:57 AM
Seems like we might be the only DDP guys around, huh?

I found a shoot interview with him that I have on DVD the other day. Might have to dig that one out and spin it again at some point.

Prime Time
06-20-2019, 11:45 AM
Double posting, but with the WCW thread turning at least a little bit towards DDP, I was thinking this might do a bit better now....

06-20-2019, 02:04 PM
Love him as much as I ever did, one of the best things to come out of WCW!

06-22-2019, 04:05 PM
His finisher was okay, I guess...

Benjamin Button
06-22-2019, 04:36 PM
DDP is just a rarity...he got over late in his career and then the brand he did it on went away.. Guys that are pure WCW guys dont have the same narrative as perhaps they would in a company that lasted...it be interesting to see how WCW would honor their legends, today.

He had some good wwe matches but never was able to reach his full potential with the character they gave him

Still he's far from forgotten...love what hes done since leaving wrestling...he represents a lot of good...and seeing his cameos in AEW and the Elite have been good, especailly how he was used for All In.

06-24-2019, 02:29 PM
After the classic with Dustin, I know kind of wonder about seeing a one off DDP/Cody match since he keeps showing up... I don't want Cody to get into a place where he's just wrestling guys who are retired but my love for DDP is strong and he seems to be in fantastic shape. Not saying I want it for sure but the idea is interesting...