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    How did they follow it up on RAW?

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    All they said was Kevin is out injured and Braun did a promo where he said he only regrets not congratulating KO on his victory. Then added he's not in the contenders matches to face Brock cause he has the case.

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    Am I the only one who gets wound up no end by this STUPID Monster in the Bank nickname?! Bloody nonsense. Typical WWE. Makes not a jot of sense but we can print it on a shitty t-shirt so who cares.

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    No, you're not at all. I was starting to get a stress headache from them repeating it over and over on Sunday. And having him INTRODUCED as "Mr. Monster in the Bank" hurt my soul.

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    They do that with everyone, don't they? They have a hyper-branding mentality, where everyone - absolutely everyone - has to have a moniker, and even when they stumble onto a cool one, they kill it dead by having Cole say it 25 times within the span of 30 minutes.

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    Anybody feeling like Strowman is probably going to cash in at Summerslam and pin Reigns to win the title, to continue the whole 'I'm not finished with you yet' storyline they had going on? Feel like the two of the have some unfinished business to attend to.

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    Not sure. Strowman has called out Lesnar so much, that he may actually cash in on Lesner at SummerSlam after Lesnar retains.

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    If it's Reigns and Lesnar (which I'm sure it'll be), Reigns is definitely 100% going over before Braun cashes in, in order to 'redeem' all his loses.

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    I don't think he's "damaged goods" yet, but I'm seriously hoping that Strowman tossing Owens off the cage is the start/return to the character that got over - remorseless, violent, serious - rather than the neutered version that we saw at Mania and for quite some time after.

    On Austin's podcast, he brought up a point that I can't shake whenever I watch Braun. I don't know the exact quote but Austin was talking about a tag match where Braun was partnering with Bobby Lashley on RAW and, after the match, Strowman either posed with or gave some sort of acknowledgment of friendship to Lashley and Austin was just like "Don't do that!" and he was 1000% right. Strowman should be friendless, a lone monster that isn't tethered to any alliance or morals. In that moment, he didn't need to hit Lashley with a powerslam or anything, but it would've been much cooler if he had least gave him a look that said "If I wanted to right now, I could destroy you too."

    I predict he cashes in at SummerSlam and am hoping that they let him feud with both heels and faces after. Reigns would be a good challenger. Lashley would be a good challenger. I think Strowman would be cheered over both. What I'd like more, though, is down the stretch having Rollins or Balor challenge for Strowman's belt. That would be a dynamic that I think would be interesting and help preserve Strowman's character as a badass that doesn't care if you boo him or cheer him, he just wants to dominate. When done right, that kind of character gets more over and sells more merch than the smiling babyface constantly seeking fan approval.

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    As much hate as he gets still think Reigns can do a lot more with that belt than Owens, Lesnar or Braun coming out of Summerslam.

    Literally see zero appeal in Strowman as champion anytime soon. I think it would be short term thinking in the extreme.

    He's already stuffed every heel on the roster like a jobber and beating up popular babyfaces that are the size of one of his legs, isn't really a face thing to do and he'll be the latest big name face to get the boo treatment. They will probably bring in the part timers like Cena or Triple H to feud with Braun to give him credible foes- (and Cena will do an absolute number on Braun's credibility win or lose when he showing videos of him in the Rosebuds or whatever).

    Owens seems to be damaged goods at the moment after months of being sacred of Shane McMahon and jobbed out left and right to Strowman. He needs some rebuilding, and at this stage, feel he needs to go face to revive his act somewhat. With Reigns however there is a decent amount of programs he can slot right into, and the title adds an extra dynamic. Against either or both Shield Brothers. He could finally grant Balor or Owens their rematch. He could do the rubber bout with Lashley. I also think a feud with him as champ and Braun as challenger is a better dynamic than the other way round.

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    How would Strowman taking the title off of AJ instead of Lesnar/Reigns work? I kind of assume the contract is open to be used on either title, given that the clause for that has always been in the contract when it's been cross-brand.

    To be honest, I'd rather they get the case onto Owens via some kind of shenanigans at SummerSlam. I think there's a lot more scope for him to do something interesting with it, and the title, than Strowman.

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    I always was under the impression that the contract could be used on either champion, however they stopped that when both brands had their own MITB ladder match.

    That being said, ever since the reinstatement of dual brand MITB matches, they haven't really acknowledged or clarified that it was still a thing. I guess creative wants us to forget that was ever a possibility.

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    Strowman beating AJ for the belt would be preferable to me, although I get the impression Braun is another guy they will stubbornly keep face for many years

    Regarding who he can cash in against, my guess is the WWE will change the rules as and when it suits them- such as the Royal Rumble. Apparently even though Orton was refusing to face Wyatt last year in story, he never said he was gonna go after the Universal belt instead. This year, they could go after whoever they want
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    Strowman beating AJ for the belt would be preferable to me, although I get the impression Braun is another guy they will stubbornly keep face for many years

    Regarding who he can cash in against, my guess is the WWE will change the rules as and when it suits them- such as the Royal Rumble. Apparently even though Orton was refusing to face Wyatt last year in story, he never said he was gonna go after the Universal belt instead. This year, they could go after whoever they want
    I mean, he is doing really well as face, and WWE needs more face characters.

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    I mean, he is doing really well as face, and WWE needs more face characters.
    But for how much longer when he's already crushed nearly all Raws full time heels with ease multiple times?

    Sometimes it's better to change them while their still hot and others benefit too (right now literally nobody and nothing but Strowman is being helped by his handling, and others are being actively hurt by it)

    Say for example he's the Monster someone like Bryan has to overcome to get back to the top, itwould be much better TV than him just continuing to just throw the likes of Owens, Ellias, Corbin and Jinder around like the modern day job squad. Which is probably what is gonna happen - yawn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blunt force balls. View Post
    But for how much longer when he's already crushed nearly all Raws full time heels with ease multiple times?

    Sometimes it's better to change them while their still hot and others benefit too (right now literally nobody and nothing but Strowman is being helped by his handling, and others are being actively hurt by it)

    Say for example he's the Monster someone like Bryan has to overcome to get back to the top, itwould be much better TV than him just continuing to just throw the likes of Owens, Ellias, Corbin and Jinder around like the modern day job squad. Which is probably what is gonna happen - yawn.
    As if on que he comes up against a much bigger challenge than he has ever faced before.

    I was a big fan of the Braun v Roman program last year, I dubbed it Goliath v Samson for its almost biblical epicness. It was really cool to see how their characters so fundamentally opposed, Reigns, the guy who had just put down The Undertaker, taking ownership of the ring as His Yard whereas Braun was the guy that constantly seeking the biggest and baddest guy and trying to tear him down. Neither has changed a whole lot so I expect the same kind of chemistry.

    I can't see him not winning the championship at some point either this Spring or if not then at Wrestlemania, he won over the adult males last year and I think his comedy schtick earlier this year and bit with Nicholas has helped him win the kids too.

    Honestly he is a pretty huge success story for the WWE, a big guy who the audience completely wrote off as useless when he first showed up turning into one of the most universally loved stars on the roster.



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    The WWE is doing anything to get Reigns cheered, so much so, that they went full on with a heel turn for Strowman. Stupid.

    What would have been better would have been for Reigns to turn and let Strowman chase.
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    Yep, Vince is sacrificing the whole promotion to push Reigns. I haven't see this much killing of talent for one guy, maybe ever, from Vince. I mean, yes, I've seen Hogan eat a whole heel roster, but all of them were suppose to get eaten, that was their job. And when Vince turned Andre, and Savage, it was a story that made sense and drew more money than ever. But this, this is different, and something I don't think I can get behind.

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    Do people still care about Strowman, especially? Not heard his name much and when I thought that and looked around all there was related to a new tattoo and a cameo in a movie.

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    It's been tough to be into him recently, for sure. The heel turn was easily as ill-advised, if not more so, than the Ryback one from a few years back. Thing is, he's not changing until at least after WWE Saudi Arabia: World Cup or whatever it is, so we're kind of just going to have to stick with it and hope that, out the other side, Braun is OK.

    The thing is, they've gone from Braun the big destroyer, even as a face, to now being Braun the cowardly heel who needs back up from at least two other guys to fight his battles, and backs down from fights anyway. It's all backwards, and instead of just letting it be they've sacrificed all the goodwill they had for him, I think.

    Time will tell.

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    Glad someone else thinks that, making him a chicken after him shouting for competition for so long is just dumb.

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    I read that Braun has been working injured.

    May shine some light on why he wasn't given the title. There are obviously other reasons too but it can't have helped.



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    it makes the choice easier. Especially if he can't do much bumping or running with possible bad knees. Same time, its not bad enough to take him off TV yet.

    Not a surprise either given how big he is and how much weight he carries.

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    I hear he's still working hurt and the will he, won't he regarding surgery has them not fully committing to some of their plans.

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    I thought he had some time off set for surgery on his elbow - something to do with bone spurs? Thought I'd seen it said that he'll be out of action, at least physically, for a while but should make TLC for the match with Corbin.

    I'm glad they went back to Strowman being a face in all of this, but I'm still not sure they've quite found the right way to use him yet. Reportedly he has a match with Brock at the Rumble in the pipeline, so that would indicate they're still pretty high on him.

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    I saw something about that too, but the last thing I saw was talking about it as if it was a less certain thing. So without watching it's hard to know where they are at with him.

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    Genuine question for anyone who has done the maths, has anyone turned as many times as quickly as Strowman?

    I know Show and Kane turned a lot but I think they at least took a couple of years to get to the point he is at now?

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    Well the turn back to face was a result of the Reigns announcement. The turn was not planned, and he probably would have been a heel for a while.

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    If you fancy a bet on the WWE - and yes, such a ridiculous concept is a real thing - then Strowman is 11/4 to leave the Rumble as Champion. Lesnar is a miserly 1/4.

    I don't share this to suggest having a bet on Braun at that price, so much as to say that it kinda says it all about his 2018, in many ways.

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    Haha who's betting on wrestling

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    Yeah, I remember when they started doing it. Very confusing then. Doesn't make much more sense now.

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    Braun is the kind of guy that you just couldn't have messed up a generation ago. Can't believe what was happened with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by For the love of Terry Funk View Post
    Haha who's betting on wrestling
    When I first heard about this, I had the idea of Vince somehow betting large amounts of money on the under dog and then calling an audible last minute at the ppv and making stupid amounts of money.

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    Isn't that the definition of insider trading?

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    Quote Originally Posted by For the love of Terry Funk View Post
    Haha who's betting on wrestling
    Lots of people apparently. It's not any more stupid than betting on any other sport that you have no control over. Things could look like a lock to happen in WWE and Vince could change his mind, sure, but you could place your bet on the SuperBowl a week later and Tom Brady could have a big fight with his wife the night before and play the worst game he's ever played.

    Betting on anything that you don't have control over seems like just as big a risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powder View Post
    Isn't that the definition of insider trading?
    I donít know if it is. Insider trading deals with stocks and other financial stuff that bores me to tears. Iím not sure if the SEC has anything to do with gambling.

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    Lots of people apparently. It's not any more stupid than betting on any other sport that you have no control over. Things could look like a lock to happen in WWE and Vince could change his mind, sure, but you could place your bet on the SuperBowl a week later and Tom Brady could have a big fight with his wife the night before and play the worst game he's ever played.

    Betting on anything that you don't have control over seems like just as big a risk.
    Agree to disagree, can't imagine betting on something that someone just writes. In the other case at least you always had a chance.

    Maybe it's all stupid. I've lost more than I've won betting on sports over the year. But betting on something predetermined just feels weird.

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    I think that it is pretty sad that Strowman is being reduced to feuding with SNL cast members. Last year at mania he tagged with a kid, and this year it looks like he will not even have a match, just a segment. Pathetic.

    Also what is just sad, is that the WWE had a completely rigged car (with all the hardware obviously removed) for him to destroy, and immediately they have a toy about the segment last night.

    WWE quickly started advertising a new “Wrekkin’ Slam Mobile” toy that features Strowman and the car from RAW. The break-a-part vehicle is going for $29.99 on WWE Shop and includes a Strowman action figure and the 10-piece vehicle, among other features.
    So sad for a guy pushed as a Monster Among Men to be reduced to comedy skits with kids from last year to SNL this year. The guy should be in a major feud for Mania, and they really could have built him up to Squash Lesnar this year and then have feuds against Rollins for the Summer, and let Reigns build himself back up and take the title off him at next year's Mania.

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    Really feels like they missed the boat with this guy. At this point he could be in danger of going the way of Ryback.

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    I don't think so, and he is rumored to host a SNL soon, probably right before Mania to promote it and to further the story line with the Weekend Update hosts.

    But after Mania Strowman needs to turn heel and become the Monster he is billed as, and run roughshod over everyone. The face run has run its course and he got turned back to face in response to Reigns' illness, but its time to reignite the fire in Strowman.

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