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    The Uso Threaditentiary

    The Usos arguably had a career year in 2017, changing up their game and just storming the tag division that was getting dominated by American Alpha. They blasted them out of the park, bested the Fashion Police, had one of the feuds of the year with New Day and then just for fun beat The Bar at Survivor Series.

    What the hell's happened to them in 2018? Did someone call the wrong person backstage uce?



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    Possibly the best titled thread on the board, Sam. Puns for the win!

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    What the hell's happened to them in 2018? Did someone call the wrong person backstage uce?
    Same thing that happened to the New Day...they had their time in the sun. Smackdown is loaded with tag teams right now and they're just not in the plans. I imagine they'll be next to face The Bar and I look forward to that programme.

    The bigger issue here is that the Bludgeon Brothers have ruined the tag division on Smackdown.

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    Thanks PT, I do my best.

    Yeah, you certainly have to wonder what the longer term plan is for the divison. Who rises up to beat them? It would seem a cop out if it was just them getting built up for The Bar to be the ones to take the titles off them but then again, who else would look remotely threatening against Harper & Rowan.



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    Nothing wrong with another push for the Bar!

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    I still want The Bar to be singles stars as I find them both more engaging than most of the singles division these days. Either vs The Miz, Styles, Nakamura etc... would be fun.

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    I don't see why they can't be both. Other than WWE booking style (see the New Day thread!).

    But I've been watching Sting chasing the tag titles and the US title in 1988, it's clearly doable if you're not wedded to such a rote booking style.

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    I'm a big fan of guys still being allies as they pursue something individually. I do think Cesaro and Sheamus have lots to offer in singles roles still.

    That's something I don't think the Usos can really say, which is maybe a little unfair to them but unless on retires I doubt either will ever break out. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing either, just the way I see it.

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    To be fair we've been given no reason to think that they can to date. They've almost always come as a package deal.

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    They're so simliar in almost everything they do, that its hard to see much difference in the two. When they didn't get promo time really, i could tell one of them was more confident than the other and there was mini feud where Miz was trying to get Naomi on his side and Jimmy showed some great fire i thought... but I've never thought of splitting them up.

    Its true that they had their time but its sad when you're a tag team in WWE, if you are not going for the title, then you get no time usually or any feud... The only reason New Day and The Bar got anything was because the Bludgen bros were basically off tv.

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    I think you’ve mentioned the crucial thing that separates them there...Naomi.

    I think Naomi is incredibly useful and is also pretty talented. From a storyline point of view she can add to it and also step in the right. If one got a single’s push, she could be used. If they ever had a blood feud too. She’d be a great heel manager and partner too.

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    I don't know if I've really seen enough of Naomi and watched closely enough to come down on one side or the other, but I do know that she is one of those performers who really divide opinion.

    Not a lot of action in here lately. Uso's suffering from the refocus away from tag teams I've been hearing about?

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    I liked Sir Sam's column on the tag scene and think he had some good thoughts that would benefit teams like The Usos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by For the love of Terry Funk View Post
    I liked Sir Sam's column on the tag scene and think he had some good thoughts that would benefit teams like The Usos.
    Thanks man, I only just saw this.

    I think there is plenty of matches left in a Bar/Uso program later this year assuming The Bar deal with the Bludgeons at the top of the division. I really likes their Survivor Series match last year, hopefully they will be firing up ready to go after the break.



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    I can't say I'm informed anymore but have they been used much? All I've seen has been Bludgeon Brothers?

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    Not since they lost the contenders match. The Uso married to Naomi was on Mixed Match Challenge.

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    Heard they were on the past Smackdown, has the last month been any better?

    I mean I'm not their biggest fan but they do have a lot of fans now, in a way they didn't before, so it seems crazy to get them over and then sideline them.

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    they beat the New Day in a captainship match for the Survivor Series Elimination Tag match. The Usos won, and then immediately asked to the New Day to be a part of the team. They all put on another great match, but watching those two teams face each other again, is like watching Cena vs Orton. Enough already, they have done this to death.

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    From an excerpt from the interview with Animal from the LOD, as reported by the main page:

    I love The Usos, but The Uso Penitentiary – what’s that? You’re Samoan. Be a Samoan! Now they’re acting like guys from the hood and I love The Usos and I love the Samoans. I’m here tonight on the card with Jacob Fatu, the Tonga Kid’s son. I see Kishi all the time and his sons are doing great and they stay within their Samoan heritage, which I love because there’s a great lineage there 3,4,5 generations deep all the way from Peter Maivia. I just like it when the Samoan boys stay Samoan.
    I completely agree. The Usos do NOT have be be like the Wild Samoans, or the SST/Head Shrinkers, but be true to your Samoan Heritage.

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    They did that for a while. It got stale. They changed their gimmick. It happens. People didn’t complain when Cena started rapping back in the day. Nobody said “embrace your white roots”.

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    I'm not saying that they should go back and wear bright colored shorts, paint their faces, and do the war dance for their entrance, but they could change their characters again, but a more subtle transformation this time. Keep the hoodies and current outfits, with their change of attitude, but since Roman (their cousin) is out, they should say that they are all about family now. Embrace their heritage. Come out and say that they are now embracing our roots, they are the Nephews of the Wild Samoans, they are the sons of Rikishi, etc. They could go on a dominant heel type of run using their family as history, kind of like Charlotte. Their family has more history in the business than the Flairs, including total championships within the family.

    if you include the entire Anoa'i family (with the Rock and Rocky Johnson) they have a total of 45 championships, and the Flairs have "just" 33 between 2 people. I limited my counting to WWF/E and WCW.

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    Why use that as a crutch for their gimmick, though? If I remember correctly, The Rock never embraced his heritage until he came back with the tattoos. And even then, he never really acknowledged it. He was never like “I’m Samoan and that’s all I am.” He never went on about the family. He found a gimmick that worked. Same thing the Usos are doing.

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    BUT the Rock took off as a character once he turned heel with the Nation. But his initial gimmick was Rocky Maivia, embracing his roots. it failed as a gimmick, but he was honoring his roots. AND he never shied away from his roots.

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    Didn’t he say he shied away from his roots. He also didn’t really use it as part of his character, though. As far as him failing and then really finding his groove in the Nation, that kind of just proves my point that just because you’re Samoan, it doesn’t mean you have to use it as part of your gimmick.

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    But, the Rock is the exception of the family...He is hard to compare anyone to.

    It is like trying to compare John Laurenitis to Animal or Barry O to Bob Orton or Lanny Poffo to Randy Savage.

    The rest of the Samoan family embraced the Samoan aspect of their lineage, and the Usos used to, but I think that they could be a dominant heel group by using their lineage. They have gone as far as they can go currently. They have put on great matches and feuds with the New Day, and now the Bar. The Usos and New Day will be linked in the same manner as The Dudleys/E&C/Hardys will forever be linked.

    But all three teams changed up. E & C split, and the Dudleys did for a time, but they evolved, and the hardy split and came back together, and then completely reinvented themselves.

    The Usos need to edit their gimmick. The "Thug" gimmick is working, but take it further and embrace your lineage.
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    Not sure how to say this but the way booking is now, I can't see The Usos getting another tweak to the gimmick.. They might have new teams to face but they're always gonna be a tag team so unless they find another good team to work with, they won't get much to work with because Vince doesn't care to invest in Tag team wrestling...

    I think for the Usos the next stage is putting over Younger/Newer teams, propping them up. They've cemented their place where they will go to the Hall of fame but likely not reach another peak.

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    Again, I don’t see why they have to use their lineage to further their thug gimmick. If anything, I’d rather see them go back to when they first came out and they were “spohisticated” thugs. Complete with the sweater vests and what-not.

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    I'd only want to see them play up ther Samoan heritage if they were in a stable with Roman.

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