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    Been reading rumours that apparently Norman Osbourne is going to be the next big bad in the MCU, and that the franchise will focus more on mini-arcs than a vast overarching story like the Infinity Saga. Don't know how accurate these are, but I thought it interesting they might go smaller, instead of straight back into something as big as what they'd just done.

    Also couldn't disagree harder on andi's cynicism towards the X-verse! The X-Men movies, for my money, have quietly proven to be the strongest long-running superhero franchise to date. It's been going longer than the MCU after all, let's not forget. Sure there's been some stinkers in there, but I'd still put X2, First Class, DOFP and most definitely Logan up there with the very best superhero adaptations ever made. I'm even quite forgiving towards The Last Stand and Apocalypse as well, both of which have their plus points. I think the emotional core of TLS is actually really good, as is the soundtrack, and Apocalypse features some brilliant acting and performances from the franchise mainstays - and, again, another great soundtrack.

    Man, I could gush about the X-Men movies for some time! Pumped for Dark Phoenix - more pumped to see how different a take Marvel might have on the characters.

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    Iíve heard the same rumors about Norman Osbourne. One thatís making the rounds is heís the one that bought the old Stark Tower after Tony moved everything to the new facility after AoU/Spider-Man: Homecoming. Donít quite know how I feel with that. On one hand, heís an iconic character and would of course make a great foil for Spidey at some point, as well as maybe introducing the Dark Avengers at some point. However, it seems like taking a step backwards after the Infinity Saga. We live in a world where every sequel needs to be bigger, better and faster than the previous, and I wonder how audiences will take to a general toning down in the overall narrative.

    As far as the X-Men franchise, I donít hate it as much as my previous post may have alluded. Iím just kind of over it and waiting for a new beginning. X1 was really good for what it was at the time. X2 was great and was the first at dropping little Easter eggs here and there from what I remember. (Mystique hacking through the computer files and coming across the list of other mutants not having been introduced on screen yet... Remy LeBeau being the one that specifically stands out from that scene.) Where they started to lose me was with consistency of quality. X3 and Origins:Wolverine were both heavily criticized. Instead of just rolling with the punches, though, Fox rebooted the franchise and even then, they decided that wasnít enough, so they used time travel to essentially wipe out the timeline and canon.

    Iíll still see Phoenix at some point because Iím a sucker and always end up seeing these movies. Hell... I watched Venom not too long ago. (Luckily there was copious amounts of booze involved with that, so it wasnít as bad as it couldíve been. Pretty sure it even became a drinking game at some point where I would take a shot for every eye-rolling scene that happened.)

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    Spider Man: Far From Home... wow. Go see it as soon as possible. You wonít be disappointed.

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    And stay for both credits scenes.

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    Going Friday

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    I not big fan of avengers but i really love thor and iron man movies

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    Spidey FFH was fantastic, and a brilliant way to cap off phase 3. If you excuse some plot mechanics (like the fact that it takes place over 4 or 5 days, which is hugely unrealistic for what happens) it's a solid and very watchable film. And I'm now convinced that Tom Holland is the best actor to play Spiderman.

    And yeah the two credits scenes are jaw droppers.


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    Lots of fun news from this weekend as everyone knows. In addition to those, Black Panther 2, Guardians 3, Fantastic Four were confirmed, mutants are coming and Mahershala Ali is Blade.

    I take the Ali news that the Netflix shows are no longer belonging to the MCU and Feige is licking lips to recast those roles for movies or Disney+ shows (once he is able to).

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    I was both excited and saddened by Aliís casting announcement. On the one hand, heís a great actor and I think he will be great as Blade, but this pretty much confirms that The Defenders are no longer canon, which kind of sucks.

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    Other random notes:

    -Zemo will return in The Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

    -The real Mandarin will be the awesome Tony Leung and be the villain in Shang-Chi.

    -WandaVision will lead directly into the Dr. Strange sequel with Scarlet Witch in the cast.

    -Loki series begins as soon as he disappears from the alternate timeline in Endgame.

    -Hawkeye may explore more of his Ronin persona.

    -Natalie Portman, who hated working on comic book movies, is back and will be female Thor.

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    Only really interested in Thor and and Blade (i'm not sure there's a need for more Blade tho.. Not sure how it fits in today). Fantastic Four and X-men being held off but coming eventually is fine but the rest of the projects do not excite me at all, even if I may watch them lol.. That may change once I read Shang Chi.

    I mean, I'm not going to see Black Widow, Eternals, Doctor Strange in theaters pretty much no matter what. Nice break Marvel has given me.
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    They still haven't really said what Blade will be involved in either. Standalone movie? Series? Supporting role in another movie?

    Eternals I don't know much about but I do like the cast.

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    Of those announced, Thor and Doctor Strange are the ones that most attract me (especially Doctor Strange, fave character in the MCU, which I know is not the most popular opinion). Still looking forward to Guardians 3 and Loki TV series too though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by comfortablynumb View Post
    They still haven't really said what Blade will be involved in either. Standalone movie? Series? Supporting role in another movie?

    Eternals I don't know much about but I do like the cast.
    Blade I have to think is an R rated movie. All their series are on Disney plus and I doubt they would want Blade to be on that service.

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    So I just re-watched Civil War, and in it Peggy Carter passes away, and Her niece Sharon Carter delivers her eulogy. In Winter Soldier, Cap kisses Sharon, and during the eulogy she implies that that she wants more with Cap.

    Then in Endgame we are not told directly, but it is heavily implied that when Cap goes back to have a wife and a life, that he was the one to be Peggy’s husband, this making him Sharon's Uncle.

    The MCU, has been very careful with their continuity, but this must have been an oversight, because if Cap does marry Peggy, then there is some incest in the MCU.

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    In Winter Soldier, Cap didnít know she was Peggyís niece. Nothing more came of it after his discovery. Iíd say itís a no harm, no foul situation. Plus, Iím pretty sure when he stayed in the past, that splintered off into a new time line, so in a way, he never kissed Sharon since that wouldíve been a different Cap during Winter Soldier.

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    Definitely splintered into a new timeline. They made it very clear the past is the past and cannot be changed. Any changes cause a new timeline.

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    Regardless of a new splintered timeline, Sharon Carter still exists and is Peggy’s niece. And if the past cannot be changed Cap still kisses her.

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    Even though itís the same Cap to the viewing audience that kisses Sharon during the events of Civil War, once he stays in the past with Peggy, he ceases to be that version of Cap from what weíve seen. So... the Steve that ends up growing old with Peggy isnít the same Steve that kisses her niece 70 years later.

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    It seems like one of those inconsequential details that impacts very little and is probably worth just allowing the storytellers a little creative licence with it. Introducing time travel into any story is always going to create issues you can't resolve. I think it's always a case of knowing there'll inevitably be holes emerge as a result, but overall looking at how well it's handled. And while the MCU has issues because of the decision to introduce time travel, I thought it was generally handled very well - if only via the attempted catch-all solution of parallel timelines, that also seems to be what'll inform the Loki Disney+ series.

    The implied logic in this instance would be that when Cap goes back to the 60s and lives a life with Peggy, it's a whole new parallel timeline in which there's no guarantee that Sharon is born, and even if she is isn't tied to living the same life because the moment Cap appears when he shouldn't be is the moment the timelines diverge, leading to a new reality.

    They only really shot themselves in the foot when they decided to start getting cute and pretending old Steve as at Peggy's funeral in Civil War. I think that's stupid, and I'll choose to ignore the notion.

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    Looks like Spider Man is out of the MCU for now at least.

    https://deadline.com/2019/08/kevin-f...er-1202672545/

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    Well shit

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    So corporate greed has ruined the Spider-Man franchise twice now? I count the first fail on Tobey. Just gutted and annoyed. There is a big audience for the Tom Holland Spider-Man franchise. This is just ridiculous.



    As for Plan mentioning how any creative endeavor involving time travel is going to have holes in logic, I welcome you to Dark on Netflix. Flawless through 2 seasons, and as twisting as a San Francisco road.

    I thought they handled it well in Endgame, mostly. Beyond the fact that Strange could have reversed time so Iron Man didn't wind up dying before Cap returned the stones.

    Also, I choose to accept that the timeline didn't change, and Cap made out with his great niece, then had to live with that dirty little secret for nigh 80 years. Far more amusing that way.


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    ^Might be more amusing, but it blatantly disregards what they said in the movie.

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    Even in a fractured timeline Cap still has that awkwardness in watching Sharon grow up lol.


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    On the One hand, i'm sad Spidey is no longer in the MCU because I enjoyed the movies but on the other hand, I'm glad there will be no more Ironman Jr.

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