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    Going Friday

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    I not big fan of avengers but i really love thor and iron man movies

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    Spidey FFH was fantastic, and a brilliant way to cap off phase 3. If you excuse some plot mechanics (like the fact that it takes place over 4 or 5 days, which is hugely unrealistic for what happens) it's a solid and very watchable film. And I'm now convinced that Tom Holland is the best actor to play Spiderman.

    And yeah the two credits scenes are jaw droppers.


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    Lots of fun news from this weekend as everyone knows. In addition to those, Black Panther 2, Guardians 3, Fantastic Four were confirmed, mutants are coming and Mahershala Ali is Blade.

    I take the Ali news that the Netflix shows are no longer belonging to the MCU and Feige is licking lips to recast those roles for movies or Disney+ shows (once he is able to).

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    I was both excited and saddened by Aliís casting announcement. On the one hand, heís a great actor and I think he will be great as Blade, but this pretty much confirms that The Defenders are no longer canon, which kind of sucks.

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    Other random notes:

    -Zemo will return in The Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

    -The real Mandarin will be the awesome Tony Leung and be the villain in Shang-Chi.

    -WandaVision will lead directly into the Dr. Strange sequel with Scarlet Witch in the cast.

    -Loki series begins as soon as he disappears from the alternate timeline in Endgame.

    -Hawkeye may explore more of his Ronin persona.

    -Natalie Portman, who hated working on comic book movies, is back and will be female Thor.

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    Only really interested in Thor and and Blade (i'm not sure there's a need for more Blade tho.. Not sure how it fits in today). Fantastic Four and X-men being held off but coming eventually is fine but the rest of the projects do not excite me at all, even if I may watch them lol.. That may change once I read Shang Chi.

    I mean, I'm not going to see Black Widow, Eternals, Doctor Strange in theaters pretty much no matter what. Nice break Marvel has given me.
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    They still haven't really said what Blade will be involved in either. Standalone movie? Series? Supporting role in another movie?

    Eternals I don't know much about but I do like the cast.

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    Of those announced, Thor and Doctor Strange are the ones that most attract me (especially Doctor Strange, fave character in the MCU, which I know is not the most popular opinion). Still looking forward to Guardians 3 and Loki TV series too though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by comfortablynumb View Post
    They still haven't really said what Blade will be involved in either. Standalone movie? Series? Supporting role in another movie?

    Eternals I don't know much about but I do like the cast.
    Blade I have to think is an R rated movie. All their series are on Disney plus and I doubt they would want Blade to be on that service.

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    So I just re-watched Civil War, and in it Peggy Carter passes away, and Her niece Sharon Carter delivers her eulogy. In Winter Soldier, Cap kisses Sharon, and during the eulogy she implies that that she wants more with Cap.

    Then in Endgame we are not told directly, but it is heavily implied that when Cap goes back to have a wife and a life, that he was the one to be Peggy’s husband, this making him Sharon's Uncle.

    The MCU, has been very careful with their continuity, but this must have been an oversight, because if Cap does marry Peggy, then there is some incest in the MCU.

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    In Winter Soldier, Cap didnít know she was Peggyís niece. Nothing more came of it after his discovery. Iíd say itís a no harm, no foul situation. Plus, Iím pretty sure when he stayed in the past, that splintered off into a new time line, so in a way, he never kissed Sharon since that wouldíve been a different Cap during Winter Soldier.

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    Definitely splintered into a new timeline. They made it very clear the past is the past and cannot be changed. Any changes cause a new timeline.

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    Regardless of a new splintered timeline, Sharon Carter still exists and is Peggy’s niece. And if the past cannot be changed Cap still kisses her.

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    Even though itís the same Cap to the viewing audience that kisses Sharon during the events of Civil War, once he stays in the past with Peggy, he ceases to be that version of Cap from what weíve seen. So... the Steve that ends up growing old with Peggy isnít the same Steve that kisses her niece 70 years later.

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    It seems like one of those inconsequential details that impacts very little and is probably worth just allowing the storytellers a little creative licence with it. Introducing time travel into any story is always going to create issues you can't resolve. I think it's always a case of knowing there'll inevitably be holes emerge as a result, but overall looking at how well it's handled. And while the MCU has issues because of the decision to introduce time travel, I thought it was generally handled very well - if only via the attempted catch-all solution of parallel timelines, that also seems to be what'll inform the Loki Disney+ series.

    The implied logic in this instance would be that when Cap goes back to the 60s and lives a life with Peggy, it's a whole new parallel timeline in which there's no guarantee that Sharon is born, and even if she is isn't tied to living the same life because the moment Cap appears when he shouldn't be is the moment the timelines diverge, leading to a new reality.

    They only really shot themselves in the foot when they decided to start getting cute and pretending old Steve as at Peggy's funeral in Civil War. I think that's stupid, and I'll choose to ignore the notion.

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    Looks like Spider Man is out of the MCU for now at least.

    https://deadline.com/2019/08/kevin-f...er-1202672545/

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    Well shit

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    So corporate greed has ruined the Spider-Man franchise twice now? I count the first fail on Tobey. Just gutted and annoyed. There is a big audience for the Tom Holland Spider-Man franchise. This is just ridiculous.



    As for Plan mentioning how any creative endeavor involving time travel is going to have holes in logic, I welcome you to Dark on Netflix. Flawless through 2 seasons, and as twisting as a San Francisco road.

    I thought they handled it well in Endgame, mostly. Beyond the fact that Strange could have reversed time so Iron Man didn't wind up dying before Cap returned the stones.

    Also, I choose to accept that the timeline didn't change, and Cap made out with his great niece, then had to live with that dirty little secret for nigh 80 years. Far more amusing that way.


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    ^Might be more amusing, but it blatantly disregards what they said in the movie.

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    Even in a fractured timeline Cap still has that awkwardness in watching Sharon grow up lol.


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    On the One hand, i'm sad Spidey is no longer in the MCU because I enjoyed the movies but on the other hand, I'm glad there will be no more Ironman Jr.

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    More news coming out of D23 this weekend... She-Hulk, Ms Marvel, and Moon Knight will all be getting their own shows on Disney+. Also, thereís supposedly an agreement with Sony concerning Spider-Man coming very soon. Rumor has it Disney will now be putting up 50% of production costs and taking 30% of the box office. Tom Hardyís Venom will be merged into the MCU, as well, and after the untitled third Spidey film, there will be another 6 picture deal for Tom Holland. (A second trilogy, plus taking a larger role in the Avengers movies.) There were a few other things with the deal that I forget... something about merchandise rights for Disney and Sony being able to develop tv shows with their Into The Spiderverse stuff or something along those lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meandi View Post
    Also, there’s supposedly an agreement with Sony concerning Spider-Man coming very soon. Rumor has it Disney will now be putting up 50% of production costs and taking 30% of the box office. Tom Hardy’s Venom will be merged into the MCU, as well, and after the untitled third Spidey film, there will be another 6 picture deal for Tom Holland. (A second trilogy, plus taking a larger role in the Avengers movies.) There were a few other things with the deal that I forget... something about merchandise rights for Disney and Sony being able to develop tv shows with their Into The Spiderverse stuff or something along those lines.
    What is the source on that?

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    It was a rumor from Friday and I read they wanted it done to announce on Saturday, which never happened.

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    Yeah, I forget where I read that. It came up while I was checking other announcements from D23. It honestly couldíve been some click-bait bullshit web site; Iím not entirely sure. Regardless, it does seem it was just that... a rumor and nothing more.

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    It would be nice for a resolution to emerge on the Spidey front, honestly, but I'm not the type of fan who'll lose too much sleep if it isn't. I would like him to continue in the MCU if it becomes possible, but with the MCU already flirting with, and seemingly set to actively embrace the notion of a multi-verse there are in-universe ways they can explain away his departure. I'm sure they'd figure out how to do it smoothly. It'd just be a bit of a shame.

    I am beginning to get concerned with how much content the MCU is soon to be putting out, though. I don't want this to become a WWE situation where there's just too much to keep up with, or where you have to not watch anything else at all to manage to keep up with it. Connections are cool and all, but I'm not quite as prepared to watch three movies and three TV series a year as I am to watch three movies a year alone! Hopefully whatever grand story they're planning next can be enjoyed with one or the other, and not just both.

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    Finally watched Far From Home and really enjoyed it! Makes me sad that they probably won't be able to use Holland anymore, he's a delight. The JK Simmons cameo was my favorite, nobody has ever been more perfectly cast.

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    I saw a meme that was a good way to help the Spiderman contoversy.

    If Sony is hell bent, then make a live action Into the Spiderverse where it has all three Spiderman. McGuire, Garfield and Holland.

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    I always thought Sony should let Disney continue the Peter Parker Spiderman, and turn their focus on Miles Morales Spiderman. Do a live action movie with Toby and have him pass the Spiderman mask to Miles, and then move from there.

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    And... Spidey is back in the MCU. Confirmed for a third solo movie and at least one other movie; Iíd assume Avengers 5. If you want a source, just google it. News broke a few hours ago and itís all over various sites.

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    its true. Disney gets i think 25% profits now. Not a huge fan of MCU Spidey but its the right decision to get a deal done for both parties.

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    I donít see how you canít be a fan of MCU Spidey. Tobey Maguire made a good Peter Parker but a lousy Spider Man, and Andrew Garfield was the complete opposite, but Tom Holland has nailed both aspects of the character. To each their own, I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meandi View Post
    I don’t see how you can’t be a fan of MCU Spidey. Tobey Maguire made a good Peter Parker but a lousy Spider Man, and Andrew Garfield was the complete opposite, but Tom Holland has nailed both aspects of the character. To each their own, I suppose.
    Has little to do with how Holland played Spidey and moreso MCU’s need for Tony Stark to be essentially his mentor. If they move away from Tony Stark Jr, then i will enjoy the third movie more.

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    I guess I get that. Their relationship on screen was a throwback to the comics, though. There was a point where Stark gave Peter a job and designed the Iron Spider suit for him. During the Civil War story, Tony gets Peter to unmask in front of the world as a demonstration of support for the Superhero Registration Act, and Peter does it despite having his reservations because of the relationship they had built. So at least there is a basis for the MCU relationship between the two, and they werenít just throwing around shit for the fun of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meandi View Post
    I guess I get that. Their relationship on screen was a throwback to the comics, though. There was a point where Stark gave Peter a job and designed the Iron Spider suit for him. During the Civil War story, Tony gets Peter to unmask in front of the world as a demonstration of support for the Superhero Registration Act, and Peter does it despite having his reservations because of the relationship they had built. So at least there is a basis for the MCU relationship between the two, and they weren’t just throwing around shit for the fun of it.
    Yes, I did read Civil War, and I knew that Spidey would start off on Tony's side. Of course in the comic, Spidey switches sides, but it was his relationship with Tony that was the reason he trusted him. The movie of course couldn't go fully into the story, but it was good way to introduce Spidey to the MCU.

    I personally liked the mentor/mentee relationship. Spidey was introduced to the MCU later, and in the context of the MCU, it all makes sense. It's refreshing to see a different take on Spidey that's different from the other movies. I think that if you can have a different take from other movies, well also keeping some foot in the source material, it's a win for everyone.

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    I'm getting to know the comics pretty well because I have Marvel Unlimited, and besides Civil War, Spider-Man and Iron man aren't really connected in the comics before that, because for most of Spider-man's history he's loner, trying to keep his identity hidden and in fact, they basically un did what happened in Civil War in the comics with One more Day.

    Its not really about holding it to the comic history, I'm fine with different interpretations and the relationship does work on some level, I do actually enjoy the MCU Spidey movies but its not because Tony is a big part of it, or the tech that Spidey uses.. That type of stuff bothers me more than Tony being involved.

    I just believe they used Tony as a crutch and I wish Spidey was defined by more than that.

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    Marvel's Live Action Ghost Rider Series not moving forward at Hulu.

    https://deadline.com/2019/09/marvels...na-1202744645/

    Shame too caused I liked Luna's version of Ghost Rider in AOS and was looking forward to the series.

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    Eh... no big loss. Go with a Johnny Blaze version of the show and plop it on Disney+ with She-Hulk, Moon Knight, and all the other shows coming out in the next few years.

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    Apparently 2021 is going to be the first year that the MCU sees four films released in a single year, right alongside all the Disney Plus stuff.

    I'm not as huge a Marvel fan as some of the folks frequenting here so I ask this as a genuine question: for the most die hard fan, will there ever be such a thing as too much? When does the saturation point come, if there is one?

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