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    Watched Black Panther last night, and thoroughly enjoyed it; so much so, in fact, I went out and impromptu picked Infinity War up on bluray before immediately sitting down and watching that too. It's still an outstanding achievement, that film. My only criticism is of Banner.

    How Ruffalo and the writers took one of the most tragic, intelligent and game-changing characters in the universe and turned him into some bumbling, hysterical, incapable screaming maniac used exclusively for comic relief and as a plot device, being more annoying than Jar Jar Binks in the process, I don't know. After Ragnarok and IW, I just want Banner to go away the moment he shows up on my screen. Mood killer.

    EDIT: I've got to finish my second run through Breaking Bad before getting to Iron Fist S2, but as someone who actually really enjoyed S1 I'm very much looking forward to it.

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    I just rewatched Iron Fist S1 last week (sober this time) to get ready for S2. S1 is actually really good, and much the same way I feel about the Luke Cage series, S2 improves on the good things while finding away to cut out some of the general complaints from S1.

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    Season 1 of Iron Fist is good? What were you guys watching? It was awful, and Finn Jones is terrible. I am in the middle of season 2, and it so much better than season 1, but it still is NOT good.

    Unlike Luke Cage, most of the show is filler. LCS2 was excellent, but a little too long.

    The best Iron Fist part was when he showed up in Luke Cage for the 1 episode.

    The only reason I watch it is for the rest of the other series, Dare Devil, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Defenders, and Punisher. They all overlap and reference each other.

    It is the same reason I still watch Legends of Tomorrow, for the crrossovers, and Arrow, Flash and Supergirl.
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    Yes, season 1 of Iron Fist is good. Itís better than season 1 of Luke Cage, The Defenders and most of Punisher. And maybe even better than some of Jess Jones season 2.

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    Wow, you are the only one who I have ever head that not only liked it, but loved it. Critics and almost all fans hated season 1, and you saying:
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    It’s better than season 1 of Luke Cage, The Defenders and most of Punisher. And maybe even better than some of Jess Jones season 2.
    Really makes me question your taste.

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    Itíll probably really blow your mind when I tell you I liked Andrew Garfield's SpiderMan movies better than Tobey Maguireís then.

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    Not at all. I thought Garfield was better as Spiderman than Maguire, and The Amazing SpiderMan was pretty good. I hated the way that they changed the narative about Peter's parents, but he was good. 2 was terrible with Jaime Foxx.

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    Garfield was a much better Spiderman than Maguire. The Maguire movies (minus 3) were better movies, than the Amazing Spiderman, but I truly liked Garfield as Spiderman so much better.

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    I had high hopes he would cross over after the Sony/Disney deal, but Iím content with Tom Holland. Something cool would be having all 3 in a movie if they ever did go full on multi-verse.

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    Tom Holland has the truest representation of Spidey/Parker to the comics, but I find that I can't re-watch Homecoming over and over again. Maybe bc I don't like the liberty taken with MJ, and I really do not like Keaton as Vulture. I think Keaton was great, but not as Vulture. Why couldn't they find a skinny, older evil business man to portray Adrian Toomes? There are plenty of actors, and they could shave their heads.

    I am ok with liberties, and diverging from comics, but not at the heart of the character.

    Take the Nolanverse.

    Scarecrow - A psychologust who wants to rule and intimidate by fear.
    Ra's Al Ghul - an evil criminal mastermind who leads the League of Assassins and wants to cleanse the world
    Joker - a pschyo-sociopath who only cares about destruction and chaos who doesn't want to kill Batman
    Two-Face - a fallen good guy DA who was horribly scared causing a separate personality to emerge
    Bane - biggest change, but a big muscualar guy who wanted to Break the Bat
    Talia - Daughter of Ra's who falls for Bruce/Batman who ends up wanting to finish her father's purpose in ending Gotham and the Bat

    If you watch the movies, the characters are tweaked but they are not really removed from who they are. Ra's is not immortal, and there aren't Lazaras Pits. But Toomes is clearly changed.

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    We have to agree to disagree with Homecoming. I think Spiderman being rebooted 3 times has hurt the Marvel Spiderman so much, that they had to make alterations that the audience hasn't seen. If you just revisit MJ, or Stacy, the audience already saw it. Look at Superman, the more you reboot something, the more the audience rolls their eyes at the same old shit.

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    Definitely agree on the reboots hurting the franchise. I'm so glad we got no origin this time around. I'd rather see Miles Morales in live-action films than more Parker films at this point.

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    I kind of wish Marvel did do a Miles Morales Spiderman. LOL... I mean if you are going to do Scott Lang instead of Hank Pym for Ant-Man, why not? I understand why you do Peter Parker, but I think the public is more and more ready for a Miles Morales Spiderman.

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    Homecoming set the stage for Morales. I forget the characterís name, but the guy that Donald Glover played is the uncle of Morales and becomes a villain himself.

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    So.much.Spider-Man talk!




    Just the thought of them making a movie with Miles Morales/Spiderverse is insanely exciting. If they got back Garfield, Holland, and Macquire for it I would lose my mind.


    As for who is the best Spider-Man so far- it is Andrew Garfield by a country mile. He nailed Spideys personality. The sarcasm was soooo good. Holland is the best Peter Parker, and Tobey Macquire existed and took up space fairly well. I miss Garfield as Spider-Man, though Holland is good, and I'm currently okay with him in the role, though I think Morales would be perfect timing if they need to inject him in.




    As for Marvel on Netflix, Iron Fist season 1 was better than it gets credit for. Iron Fist season 2 is outstanding imo. It got better with every single episode of the season. Cliff hanger after cliff hanger, so well written. I looooved the character arcs of Ward and his sis, and the villain was so perfect it was just the perfect storm. They also set it up for a very interesting season 3.


    Imo, the two worst seasons we have seen from all shows combined was Jess Jones season 2, and The Defenders. Defenders was throw away rubbish, Jess Jones season 2 was completely abysmal. Jess Jones season 2 was one of the biggest let downs ever after such a great first season. Truly, the drizzling shits of the entire series. Iron Fist season 1 is leagues better than Jess Jones season 2 imo.


    The best seasons would be Jess Jones season 1, Daredevils 2 seasons, and Iron Fist season 2, then Punisher. Luke Cage is somewhere in the middle. Both seasons are pretty equal. I enjoyed season 2. I really enjoyed Bushmaster's character arch.


    The most exciting news though, just leaked, Daredevil season 3 drops on October 18th folks.. just a few weeks away!!


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    The man in the High Castle Season 3 drops a week prior to DDS3. It's going to be tough to watch all at the same time.

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    I've seen the trailer for Venom at the cinema a couple of times now. I guess that must be out soon - not sure whether I think it looks promising or not.

    "The worst moron is the one too stupid to realise they're a moron."

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    Looks promising, but the main knock is how can you introduce Venom WITHOUT Spiderman?

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    Thatís pretty much my gripe, as well. But Tom Hardy is awesome in everything he does, so hopefully we get a coherent story and some great acting from him.

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    From some of the excerpts from the trailer, Hardy is playing Eddie Brock as whimpering. Brock is a strong, asshole bully, which is exactly why the Venom/symbiote attaches itself to him and thrives.

    Also it seems from the trailers, that Carnage is a second symbiote who will be the main villain. And Carnage is the offspring of Venom and much stronger than Venom, and if memory serves, doesn't it take Venom AND Spidey teaming up to take him down.

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    Yeah, Spidey typically has to show up to help Venom take down Carnage.

    Iím definitely willing to give it a chance. Iím sure Iíll read all the negative reviews of it just like BvS and Justice League, and then Iíll rent it when it hits amazon prime and find a way to enjoy it regardless. (Just like BvS and JL...)

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    I am going to see it, but I do not know if I will like it.

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    I think it looks interesting.. and I'm not expecting it to follow the comics because if it did that initially, its not a Venom movie... He's a ruthless spider-man villian (and I feel that's the best take on the character... but I imagine Sony/Marvel wants an anti hero)

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    As the audience for comic book movies is a lot bigger than the audience for comic books, and not everyone who reads the source material will care, I imagine they can get away with making that kind of change because to a lot of people it just won't really matter.

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    I agree, but isn’t Venom one of those iconic characters that most people know who he is? Not like Captain Marvel. She is NOT as well know as Venom. Even the real Captain Marvel from DC is not as well known as Venom.

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    If I had to put money on it my guess would be that the only character 'most people' know in Spiderman, is Spiderman.

    I mean I'm sure if you're into the movies you probably remember him from Spiderman 3 and most Marvel fans will obviously know the character - but at the same time I reckon I know a whole lot of people that I could ring up and ask them to name a villain, his girlfriend, or his aunt, and they probably wouldn't be able to do it. But we do tend to assume that stuff we like is better known than we think it is (it's why setting a quiz, especially a music quiz, can be difficult - it's really easy to make it too hard).

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    I hear you with music, because there is good music, and great music, and some ok music, then there is complete shot called Country music.


    BUUUUUUT, I still cannot believe that they are giving Venom his own movie without Spidey. That is just wrong. It is like making a Batman origin without a killing his parents, or Superman without destroying Krypton, or Spider-Man without him getting bit by a spider. Venom was part of Spider-Man prior to becoming attached to Brock.

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    I think part of the issue is they already did the Venom story pretty poorly in that third spider-man movie and sony at this point wants to make a bunch of movies about Spidey characters but not another Spidey/Venom movie. It's also pretty easy to take an alien symboite and make it so its contained in a lab and doesn't just show up on Spider-Man like in the comics.

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    I completely agree that making venom a self contained Alien Symbiote, or a medical/military experiment gone wrong is easy to do, but that changes almost everything about Venom.

    What if Bruce Wayne's parents were strangled, not shot, would Batman then use guns?
    What if Superman landed in NY and not Kansas, would he still be a big blue boy scout, or would he be an asshole like Batman (an the rest of us New Yorkers)? (Or in Russia like in Red Son)
    What if instead of the spider being radiated it was another insect?


    See my point? it is easy to adapt and change the history, like Marvel did with Guardians of the Galaxy b/c they were all very minor players in the comic book world, but Venom is one of the top villains of all time, and Spidey's #1 villain (maybe #2 to Norman Osbourne). Venom ranks with the Joker, Luthor, and Magneto, and they changed his origin. The movie probably will be good, and entertaining, but I hate when they really deviate from the source material.
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    No, I get the point and I would prefer a Venom origin a little bit closer to the source material. Its not something that keeps me from the movie though. As long as its a good story. The origin for me just doesn't hold impact anymore because Venom is never going to be that again.. so while its unfortunte, its something i can live with. You can't.

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    Kind of a shame they went with Brock instead of Flash Thompson. Couldíve gone Agent Venom and then we wouldnít really need to argue about the origin or Spidey not being around.

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    Flash never had the symbiote though, right?

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    Given to him after he lost his legs in the Iraq War.

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    Ok.. had no idea.

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    Captain Marvel trailer is out. Looks like Marvel/Disney is about to start printing money yet again.

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    Very intrigued by Captain Marvel. I know absolutely nothing about the character and want to go into it cold this time. I did some reading around Black Panther and Guardians, who I also knew nothing about. But I really like the idea of heading into one of these films with a blank slate. Also, the trailer won me over with the first shot of a Blockbuster video store! Man, the nostalgia there! Hopefully CGI'ing Jackson's face won't prove distracting. I am a little worried about that one.

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    Saw Daredevil S3 trailer this morning. Looks like theyíve managed to take it even darker than the first two seasons.

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    OK...so....Venom.

    The movie was good and entertaining. It was not light and fun like Deadpool or the MCU, but it had humor. They got most of Venom's origin correct with the entire LACK IF F'N SPIDER-MAN!!!! Also they made Eddie Brock, the stereotypical High School bully, turned into adult bully (which is THE reason that Venom finds it's true host with Brock) into a whiny, down on his luck loser who is a underlying nice guy who constantly makes poor life choices and can't get out of his own way.

    I know I am usually overly hard on comic book movies/shows with their changes to the source material, but this one, to me is unforgivable. Venom and Eddie Brock are HUGE parts of Spider-man's history, and Fox threw that out the window.

    The movie was fun, but very disappointing to this comic book fan.




    Secondly, they showed a Captain Marvel trailer before the movie, and I have one gripe about it. The MCU has been really, really good about continuity and references to its own history throughout its entire 10 year, 20 film universe.

    Now with the Captain Marvel trailer, we see a young Nick Fury clearly interacting and helping Capt. Marvel, fine, no problem. I have absolutely no issue with this, EXCEPT that in the Avengers, when Fury was questioned by Stark, Banner and Rogers about his development about the Phase 2 weapons he states it was because of Thor. see below

    Bruce Banner: I'd like to know why SHIELD is using the Tesseract to build weapons of mass destruction.

    Nick Fury: Because of him!

    [points at Thor]

    Thor: Me?

    Nick Fury: Last year, Earth had a visit from another planet that had a grudge match that leveled a small town. We learned that only are we not alone, but we are hopelessly, hilariously outgunned.

    Thor: My people want nothing but peace with your planet!

    Nick Fury: But you're not the only ones out there, are you? And you're not the only threat. The world is filling up with people that can't be matched, that can't be controlled!

    Steve Rogers: Like you control the cube?
    In this dialogue, we (the Audience) learn that SHIELD and Fury learn about Alien life from Thor's first visit to Earth. Now if almost 20 years earlier Fury had met/helped/trained Captain Marvel, and we see what she is capable of in the trailer, why would't SHIELD have learned about aliens then and have been making weapons in the 20 years since her visit? Why wouldn't SHIELD have called in Marvel when Loki attacked in Thor and then in the Avengers with the Chitauri, or in Ultorn to help out with Ulton?

    Seems to me that if an Alien (Loki) is summoning an Alien army and leveling New York, he would have called Marvel to help.


    The MCU, as I said, has been really good with its continuity, but this is a HUGE hole. The weapons comment in Avengers indicating that he had no idea about aliens prior to THOR makes no sense as of right now.
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    Just a theory, but maybe Captain Marvel is able to contain the Skrulls/Kree/whomever and keep them in space. Fury has no reason to suspect of any future attack on Earth because of Carol keeping things out there. Or maybe... Fury just shows up in the beginning while Carol is still an Air Force pilot and has no idea she ends up in space later. Just spit balling random thoughts... surely at this point, Marvel knows to go back and review everything before continuing with a new story so as not to contradict things. (Although... Guardians 1 claims Gamorra was the only survivor of her planet whereas IW states Thanos only killed half. So maybe they do let things slide through unnoticed.

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    Regardless of keeping the Kree in space SHIELD had to know about aliens prior to THOR.

    Also I completely forgot that Agents of SHIELD is cannon, and they had Colson being healed/brought back to life by a [dead] Kree. So SHIELD knew about aliens because they had some.

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