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    The master plan is keep jobbing Reigns to Lesnar until people feel sorry for him, DAMMIT!

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    If they change it to until PT pisses himself laughing they'll have a better chance....

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    I love that. Every time Roman gets some momentum, there's Brock to beat him.

    I mean, I like that sort of story anyway - every Superman needs their Kryptonite - and I'd hoped they were going to do it with Braun, after Fastlane last year Braun pretty much beat Reigns at every opportunity, from Great Balls of Fire to Payback and even a LMS match on Raw. Then they had Roman dispatch Braun in the chamber earlier this year (an admittedly tired Braun) and haven't gone back to the well on it.

    I don't really get why they're doing Reigns vs Mahal right now. It flat out doesn't make sense unless they were just hoping that it would improve Roman's reaction for a couple of months.

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    So apparently it is finally time to have Reigns' coronation at SummerSlam.

    Yeah. The moment no one has wanted.

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    If they're going to push on with it, this is probably better than dragging it out for another Wrestlemania Main Event.

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    i guess that's one positive in a shit sandwich.

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    What can I say, I'm an optimist.

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    Yet, even with Reigns winning at SummerSlam, he will hold the title to WM, and that means another Main Event spot. And that would tie Hogan for the most consecutive WM main events, with 5. And what's worse, is that he will then be only 2 Main events away from tying Hogan's all time record of 7 main events. Now that is just terrible.
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    I got an idea, why not give Roman Reigns the belt, and then beat everybody!

    Seriously. I hope the WWE does do this. I'm so sick and tired of Vince teasing this, it makes it worse and worse. Either shit or get off the pot. Blow your load and let's all move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powder View Post
    Yet, even with Reigns winning at SummerSlam, he will hold the title to WM, and that means another Main Event spot. And that would tie Hogan for the most consecutive WM main events, with 5. And what's worse, is that he will then be only 2 Main events away from tying Hogan's all time record of 7 main events. Now that is just terrible.
    The worst part is that not a single of those WM main events was deserved. I think almost every year there was someone more over with a better feud that could, and should, have main evented. Though the first one was a legitimately great match.

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    Genuine question here. If people feel that strongly about Reigns position on the show, has it affected how much you watch.

    And if not... why?

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    I can honestly say I haven't watched raw in a few weeks. Reigns doesn't interest me. Without pushing him to win, it just feels like the show is stagnate and going no where.

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    Reigns' position on RAW doesn't affect my viewership, it just makes me continually wonder why Vince, Stephanie, and HHH constantly say that they "listen to the fans" when they clearly do not.

    We all know that Reigns is going to beat Lesnar and we are all just waiting for the other shoe to drop.

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    I was just wondering why it didn't. I mean, if you don't like it and not watching is the only way to really effect change, then why keep watching?

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    Reigns just lost clean in the middle of the ring. When was the last time that happened?

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    Wrestlemania.

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    Right. And before that?

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    Not going to lie, when I hear dueling chants, I get scared. Before it was just Roman hatred, which Vince wouldn't stand for. But like last night when they did the Let's Go Roman/Roman Sucks chant, Roman looked out to the crowd like, "yep, finally, that's what I'm going for!" Vince might see that and just run with it. Roman's not over, but he's over enough for Vince.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powder View Post
    Reigns just lost clean in the middle of the ring. When was the last time that happened?
    Can't be bothered to look up which were clean or not, but here's Roman's televised losses in singles matches, no counting DQ or countout or whatever.

    Bobby Lashley 7/15/18 Extreme Rules
    Brock Lesnar (Cage) 4/27/18 Greatest Royal Rumble
    Brock Lesnar 4/8/18 Wrestlemania 34
    The Miz 1/29/18 Raw
    The Miz 1/22/18 Raw
    Braun Strowman (Cage) 10/16/17 Raw
    Braun Strowman (LMS) 8/7/17 Raw
    Braun Strowman (Ambulance) 7/9/17 Great Balls of Fire
    Samoa Joe 6/19/17 Raw
    Braun Strowman 4/30/17 Payback
    Samoa Joe 2/6/17 Raw
    Kevin Owens (No DQ) 1/29/17 Royal Rumble
    Kevin Owens 9/12/16 Raw
    Finn Balor 7/25/16 Raw
    Seth Rollins 6/19/16 MITB
    Sheamus (TLC) 12/13/15 TLC
    Sheamus (Cash In) 11/22/15 Survivor Series
    Bray Wyatt 7/19/15 Battleground
    Seth Rollins 3/2/15 Raw
    Big Show 2/2/15 Raw

    That's a longer list than I would have expected, though I'm sure a lot of them were screwy victories.

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    Braun Strowman and Brock own his ass lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LK3185 View Post
    Braun Strowman and Brock own his ass lol.
    That's always been the thing with Braun, though - he's constantly owned Roman in matches, with the exception being their very first bout (I think it was Fastlane '17?) and the end of Elimination Chamber this year.

    It's why I wish they'd have not booked that first match at the time they did - because it was the lead up to Mania 17 so Roman had to go over and Look Strong before facing Taker - and held it off for another month. Not least because Strowman was undefeated at the time, and while it didn't really hurt him long-term it really could have done. It would have been good if they could have found a way out of booking Reigns to win clean over Strowman in the chamber as well, althought that's some into-a-corner booking that they might not be able to work out easily.

    But yeah, I think Braun and Roman can be a really big main event storyline if WWE slightly papers over those losses (and the Chamber one is relatively easy to do as Braun ran through everyone else in the match before taking the pin, I guess) and show that Braun is the kryptonite to Reigns' Superman or whatever.
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    He is finally champ. Can we just reset the last 6 months?

    I'm really excited to see what he does now he is champ. I am of the opinion that his two best stints have been when he has been defending his position at the the top, after winning the WWE Title at Mania 32 and after beating Taker at Mania 33, making himself a marked man once again.

    He had a cracker of a first night as champ on Raw, the opening segment was really fun and the main even was positively raucous. You can only imagine just how motivated he must be to put the stinker of a feud with Lesnar behind him and make going through all that worth it in the end.

    Almost makes me want to find a way to watch Raw and not just read the results for once.



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    Almost makes me want to find a way to watch Raw and not just read the results for once.
    Last Monday was probably one of the best Raws they've had in a long time. It feels like they actually have a formula down that they can work with. I've hated the whole Lesnar/Reigns thing. It wouldn't be so bad if both characters weren't just unlikable. Like, Lesnar is cool, but they keep him off TV which makes us resent him. Reigns can wrestle and do his job well, but they shove him down our throats and made us resent him. It was a real shit show for a while.

    But with Lesnar's departure, the title back on Raw, and Reigns FINALLY moving on with his personal story, I think Monday nights are in a good spot.

    I'm actually excited again.

    It ALMOST feels like there are hints of the attitude era with Strauman running around flipping things over too. Ha ha

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    I need more of Gulak yelling “you don’t run things around here no more!” into the face of Roman Reigns and then slapping him.

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    Reigns in his current ego field badass form works incredibly well as a center piece of the product, the reactions he gets are always huge and thy can use the negativity he gets to elevate other performers. It worked with Styles in 2016 and with Braun last year. I think they are probably going to try it with Drew McIntyre next and hopefully come early 2019 they will use it to make the Shield Triple Threat something huge at Mania.



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    Don't really hear so much anymore, but the last thing I heard was that they were still having security actively confiscate anti-Roman signs at events?

    I remember when that was something WCW would do and it was 'one of the reasons we won the war'....

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    What is wrong with signs now? Back in the Attitude Era up to 206ish all we saw were signs. I get you want to keep them PG, I am completely OK with confiscating signs that are offensive, but what is wrong with the WWE allowing fans to express themselves?

    DUMB!

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    The whole point is that they said WCW took away signs that didn't suit the narrative, and now they take away inoffensive signs critical of their top guy.

    It's a level of protection even Cena didn't get, so far as I know.

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    Has anyone sat down to work out how many more over people have been ignored and ruined for Reigns? I wonder if it's in double figures yet.

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    No one deserves that. My thoughts are with Roman and his family. I hope he gets through it all.

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    I wonder how long he will be out for.

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    I doubt there's any sort of timetable, but I'd have thought we were talking years rather than months? Chemo drugs will wreck his body, so he'll have to rebuild from the ground up. Could be we don't see him for a couple of years.

    I'm gutted for the guy.

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    From the little i've read and not knowing how far he's in the process, its probably gonna be at least a year, probably longer.

    Not that this matters, but I don't see him ever getting booed like he has if/when he comes back. When you beat cancer, it changes people's perspective.

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    A quick search on Google says that the length of treatment for most types of leukemia is at least two years. I'm guessing if Reigns ever comes back to the ring, it'll be well beyond 2020 or 2021.

    It really bums me out to see someone in the prime of their life and at the top of their game have it all swiftly taken away just like that. Cancer fucking sucks.

    Take care of yourselves, people. If you feel something's not quite right with your health, have it checked out as soon as you can.

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    I'm completely heartbroken for this guy. Seriously, I put Raw on last night and was just gutted. Whether he makes it back or not is secondary, I just hope that the guy recovers and can go on to live a long and healthy life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Farrell View Post
    I'm completely heartbroken for this guy. Seriously, I put Raw on last night and was just gutted. Whether he makes it back or not is secondary, I just hope that the guy recovers and can go on to live a long and healthy life.

    This, this and this. I'm a little concerned that some people haven't grasped the seriousness of this situation and think Reigns will simply beat this and be back by Wrestlemania. Like several have said in this thread, it takes years both to beat this and then recover from the treatments used to beat it (at best it takes a year, as it did with both Hacksaw Jim Duggan and Kenta Kobashi). And quite frankly those odds aren't the greatest. From what I've read (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong) there's a 57% five year survival rate for people afflicted with leukemia in the US and apparently in people who relapse (and from what I understand this would be his second relapse) the survival rate plunges to 10% for five years. Forget fighting for his career; the man is legitimately fighting for his life. This is not something that will just go away with a little bit of treatment and exercise. I'm very worried people haven't prepared themselves for how serious this could be. It's awful, and it's even worse when you remember that Reigns' family has already gone through the death of his brother (Rosey) and cousins (Yokuzuna and Umaga) at early ages and that Reigns himself now has a four year old daughter and two year old twin sons. No matter how you feel about Roman Reigns the character (and quite frankly his push was the reason I stopped watching WWE and stopped giving them money), you have no soul if you don't feel for Joe Anoa'i the man. Just awful.


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    Yeah, its bigger than silly wrestling.. if he never wrestles again but is healthy for the rest of his life.. that's a win.. There's def a chance he returns but we're looking at 2020 if he's really lucky..The one thing on his side is he's still pretty young. The older you are, the harder it is to fight apparently.

    Lost my mom to cancer at 36, different cancer and all that but just cause it goes in remission doesn't mean it goes away forever. This is a lifelong struggle for him. He might even have to stop wrestling because it could be too hard on his body to continue. We won't know that for awhile though.
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    I'd honestly assumed that everyone knew that deep down and it was just an effort to try and think positive.

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    Yeah, I just want him to have a healthy life. Wrestling doesn’t matter.

    That was also an incredible moving moment that will sit with me for a long time. I was in tears watching it. The WWE gave him the mic and the last promo he cut was the best of his career. He knocked it out the park.

    I like Joe. I hope he gets well.

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    I wish Joe all the health in the world. It's not important if he comes back, but I would love for him to come back. I would love to see him back, with his SHIELD buddies, his cousins, and doing what he loves in full health.

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