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    I hope Becky losing at Summerslam is the start of a Becky heel turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LifeLostInRewind View Post
    I hope Becky losing at Summerslam is the start of a Becky heel turn.
    I've seen a lot of people on social media unhappy with Charlotte's inclusion into the SD Title match. However it's clear from the TV that this is still a very Becky-centric story. Even if Asuka is added in this week to make it a 4-way, it's still Becky's story. It may not result in a title win for her, but it will be interesting going forward.

    I think there might not be as many "bookends" at Summerslam for all the women's matches to be honest. With Evolution a couple months away, I imagine creative are more likely to see that PPV as the more story concluding event.
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    I actually love the way they went about adding Charlotte to that match because it works completely with their characters. Becky's always going to be the one who had to struggle to get her opportunities - it's even in her background story, starting to train at 15/16, travelling around Europe at 18/19, getting to America at around the same sort of time, working hard to make it to WWE. And then to even get a chance at a title shot she had to beat a procession of opponents and the champ herself.

    Meanwhile Charlotte got hired because of her surname, with no wrestling experience, and has had everything handed to her ever since. She was the first horsewoman to the NXT title, the first to get title shots after they were all called up, she's had opportunities with both the Raw and Smackdown titles, she's headlined Raws and pay per views. All because of her surname. And then she returns from injury and is immediately given an opportunity again without having to earn it.

    It's a great divide between the two of them.

    Now, I think the right step here is to turn Charlotte rather than Becky, and make her an entitled, up her own backside heel. That then gives her a clear character going in to a future match with Rousey, which rumour has it is scheduled for Mania 35, and gives that match a proper hook to get the crowd invested.

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    We've already seen heel Charlotte and to be quite frank, I'm sick of seeing Charlotte in general being the focal point of the women's division. Becky has been floundering around and like Bayley, she is stale and needs a character overhaul. This is the perfect excuse to turn Becky and give her that character overhaul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LifeLostInRewind View Post
    We've already seen heel Charlotte and to be quite frank, I'm sick of seeing Charlotte in general being the focal point of the women's division. Becky has been floundering around and like Bayley, she is stale and needs a character overhaul. This is the perfect excuse to turn Becky and give her that character overhaul.
    Agreed.

    I wish WWE did more with Asuka than being used as someone to put over other female talents tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LifeLostInRewind View Post
    We've already seen heel Charlotte and to be quite frank, I'm sick of seeing Charlotte in general being the focal point of the women's division. Becky has been floundering around and like Bayley, she is stale and needs a character overhaul. This is the perfect excuse to turn Becky and give her that character overhaul.
    Get used to it. She's not going anywhere but the top of the card, no matter where she is.

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    Nothing in here since the heel turn?

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    Becky is doing the best work of her WWE career since the heel turn. Her promos are good and meaningful. She is not stumbling or trying too hard.

    Her explanation of why she did what she did to Charlotte, may have actually been Becky voicing her true frustrations about Charlotte and the WWE.

    If the term Pipebomb, hasn't been thrown around since Punk, and then AJ Lee's Pipebombshell, then this may have been considered the most real promo in the past few years. AND in my opinion, it was the best, sincere, shoot promo the WWE has had since Punk in 2011, but it was lost because it was on Smackdown and given by Becky. But every word rang true, and the audience responded with..."yeah, that's true". And still the audience is behind Becky because they feel for her. Her heel turn wasn't a true heel turn, it was just Becky getting frustrated that everything is about Charlotte, and where is her opportunity?

    Below is the transcript of her explanation. and it's good.

    I don’t understand what people are saying to me when they say, ‘well done,’ because I went in there with the intention of winning the title and I currently do not have a title. And I have been burning a hole through the Women’s Division on SmackDown Live for the past few months and then Charlotte shows up and she gets handed a title opportunity and opportunistic as ever when I had that match won, she snuck in and she stole my victory from me one more time. And again she gets handed the gold and I’m left on the sidelines.

    So okay the crowd the cheered, but what does that mean when I haven’t accomplished anything? And I’m left there with one title while she’s had seven - maybe eight if you count NXT - I’m supposed to be satisfied with that? I’m supposed to be happy with that? That’s not enough for me.

    I appreciate that they wanted to see me win, but I didn’t get the gold and I think I’ve been preoccupied too much by keeping people on my side. And that hasn’t done me any favors. I have to re-evaluate everything and re-evaluate what I was putting my priorities on. And if that was getting the crowd on my side, if that was getting a friend on my side? Then I’ve been doing it wrong, because there’s one reason why I came to WWE and that was to be great and I’m not achieving that.

    So I have to look at everything, and look at the fact that I’m not on the front of the posters all the time. I’m not on the front of the DVDs. And why is that? It’s certainly not because of me. Because I have been working my ass off the entire time I’ve been here. I haven’t dropped the ball once. But any time that Charlotte Flair shows up, then it’s all about her. It’s all about her.

    When I was the first woman drafted to SmackDown Live, this show was entirely about me. This show was entirely about me. That title was built because of me. Because the people wanted me to have a championship. Because I deserved it. And because Charlotte Flair had stolen it from me, time and time again, when it was the Divas Title, or when it was the Women’s Title and before there was a brand split. And then of course she gets drafted to SmackDown Live and again, it becomes all about her.

    In 2017, I had one title match and that was at WrestleMania and it was a six-way? I haven’t been given a fair shot at all. I am the best on this roster, both Raw and SmackDown and I’ve proven that time and time again yet I don’t get the opportunity.

    Why is that? Is it because I’m not blonde enough? Is that it? Is it because I don’t have enough enhancements? Is that it? I’m treated like the red-headed stepchild of the entire Women’s Division. Yet I have proved time and time again that I am the moneymaker. That I am the person that people will tune in to see. That they will care about. That they want to see me win.

    Yet it’s being stolen from me every single time.

    She’s there crying about how it’s lonely at the top, well it’s not gonna be lonely for very much longer because I’m climbing to the top and I’m gonna break her jaw.
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    "Because I'm not blonde enough, because I don't have enough enhancements"

    Damn...

    I agree with your assessment that this is the best work of her career so far and it is the most high profile angle she has been in since Mania 32.

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    Sometimes I wish the WWE would let things play out and see how it fleshes out before making long term plans. I would hate to see Becky Lynch get the same kind of treatment that Braun Strowman got when he was getting red hot. Because of long term Mania plans with Roman, Braun's momentum cooled at a time where they should have pulled the trigger on him and changed course. I understand that Charlotte could go to RAW and leave Lynch Smackdown all to herself, but I have a feeling they don't want her to lose and having Lynch cheat to win really contradicts her mission.

    Let Lynch grow til Mania and let Charlotte counteract and do the same. There's more layers to Charlotte/Lynch that need to be told.. let them entertain us and if it's Becky in the end who seems like the better fit- then let her get Rousey. Not EVERYTHING has to be set in stone 9 months in advace without letting stuff flesh out. I hate that about the WWE. Competition is good, even in the scripted format. Let people impress you.

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    I'm not going to lie. I find Becky Lynch a hell of a lot more attractive than Charlotte Flair. I am also liking this heel run of hers, but if they do a double turn, I won't be happy. I think this heel turn is exactly the way to freshen Becky's character.

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    I’m normally not for hot potatoing the belt but I think in this case it would be excellent if Becky won it even just for one ppv cycle. It sets her up as a threat long term and pays off the character and story a bit.

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    Aside from the very small amount of 'I'm not doing this to please you people anymore' in that Becky promo, that's one hundred percent a fiery face promo. 100%. I'm sorry, it just is.

    Roll with me for a second, but imagine a scenario in early 2014 where Daniel Bryan and Triple H are having a promo-off in the middle of the ring. And if that comes out of Daniel Bryan's mouth, people are going to cheer like shit for it.

    They are literally begging for me to cheer for Becky when she's out cutting promos like that.

    I think there's also a bit of Roman-itis setting in about Charlotte. More than a whiff of 'when Charlotte's not on screen, everyone should be talking about Charlotte' to it all, and WWE are clearly super invested in her being on top of the women's division regardless of show or other talent - and people are getting bored of that. And Becky is throwing out massive truths like the above, and it's relateable to a lot of the audience because they're seeing exactly what she's saying being played out in the way WWE treat Charlotte and the way they've used Becky.

    I want Becky to be champion, and to subsequently hold that title through her rematch. And then let's see Becky get set up against someone new at a main event level and let Charlotte be the person who's down the card giving shine to people like the IIconics, or Naomi, or Sonya Deville and Mandy Rose.

    Thing is, I don't think they're going to do that. Because of the rumoured Rousey match at Mania 35, they're going to continue with her at the top of the program until they can run that face off, probably do it title for title too. And what does that mean?

    It means everything that Becky is saying is right.

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    Charlotte should have been a cockier than ever heel bragging about cementing her legacy after beating Asuka instead of all that Carmella stuff we had to deal with that amounted to nothing and made nobody better.

    This is a tough spot for Lynch because it definitely does feel a lot like 2017 Braun Strowman getting hot and having to deal with Reigns and Lesnar's long term plans being in place with the Rousey/Charlotte rumors. How do you keep Charlotte strong and not derail Lynch? How do you distance these two from each other eventually if that's the plan? Is distancing from each other even the right move? Do you throw Asuka in at some point to be fodder for someone? Is that even the right move?

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    Yeah, the wwe did book themselves in a corner here.

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    Not necessarily. Becky is as hot as hell right now. It's exactly the same as Strowman, and the answer is the same as Strowman - you change the plan.

    Becky Vs Rousey at Mania with both titles on the line, or champion Vs champion.

    It's that simple.

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    but it's not that simple because they wont change the plan, thus subjecting lynch to the same halt in momentum that she may never get back. Hope I'm wrong

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    Not necessarily. Becky is as hot as hell right now. It's exactly the same as Strowman, and the answer is the same as Strowman - you change the plan.

    Becky Vs Rousey at Mania with both titles on the line, or champion Vs champion.

    It's that simple.
    I'm sure that's something most of us would book, but this is WWE we're talking about. The company that completely derailed Asuka, contradicted themselves on Rousey earning herself the title match etc. You're giving them a little too much credit.

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    It is that simple, though - the fact that WWE (likely) won't do it doesn't make the answer less straightforward.

    Anyway, I'm really glad they've made Becky champion now. And the crowd loved it, by and large.

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    But for how long?

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    Just giving this a bump because Becky is getting rave reviews and still holds the title.

    They could do with leaving it on someone, honestly. That belt has averaged five different reigns a year since it's creation. If Becky can stay popular, I say let her run with it.

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    Yeah, but Asuka is going to take it at Mania. I'd bet on it.

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    I'm interested to see what happens at and after Survivor Series with Becky. For a start, she'll be up against someone who, unlike Charlotte, most fans don't seem to have turned off of yet in Ronda. Going further, Ronda rarely looks in trouble in her title matches for me, even when she is theoretically on the back foot.

    If Becky gets good reactions during the match plus does something not dissimilar to what AJ did against Brock last year and looks strong and good in defeat, I think that would suggest WWE maybe being more behind her than we perhaps think. And a lot of that will probably be down to her recent crowd reactions and work, which has been top drawer - her two promos on Smackdown this week, the one before the Nikki reveal and the backstage one, were excellent.

    I can certainly see her getting to Mania with the belt. What I can't do is work out what happens between now and then. The Charlotte stuff seems done, although the 'finding her smile' or whatever angle they're doing with her does seem to end up back at Becky's door where she overcomes that challenge to put herself back on top. But I'm not sure who the immediate possible challengers are on Smackdown - everyone seems in a bit of a holding pattern.

    The only two options I can think of are Asuka and Naomi, but I don't think either has done much in singles competition recently? Could be a good set of matches with either one of them, though.

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