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    I mean, I get it, I do - I just think this is WWE in almost desperation mode. Funnily enough, whenever someone gets injured they seem to pull things out of their arse to keep/gain momentum.

    It's interesting, to say the least.

    Did anybody see. Becky's tweet reply to Ronda's Instagram post (which was along the same lines as her promo on Monday, including calling.a woman two days older than her a Millennial disparagingly)?

    Ronnie, TL/DR. When I got my face broke I got up, owned you THEN showed up the next day looking to fight some more. When you got your face broke you hid for a year under your blankie. Your mind is as weak as your jaw, & Iím going to move heaven & earth to come destroy them both.
    I love her.

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    She also called Nia a bitch. She's on fire in all facets.

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    Did you all see the WWE: The Day Of video they did on her this week, as she found out she can't compete at Survivor Series?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/WWE/statu...92677696552960

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    Definitely not WWE merch, but it's still awesome. I saw this on an ad from FB.

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    I actually bough a "THE MAN" shirt to show support for Becky. She's on fire and I want to do something to let WWE know that she's the best thing they have to offer.

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    According to Cagematch it's been over a month since her last match now, anyone know when she's likely to be back? I imagine what with it being concussion, that they are taking it very carefully.

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    She is scheduled to wrestle at TLC on Sunday, and I believe its all but confirmed. There was no write off on last night's Smackdown, and she was involved physically in the brawl. so, she is all set to go.

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    Ah, that's good. Thanks for the update.

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    Yeah, I think that I read last week that she had been cleared from her concussion but was only about a week out from being cleared from her orbital fracture.

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    I find it very concerning that during the entire TLC match last night, Cole kept talking about Charlotte's resolve and not about Becky. It is clear that the WWE is going to try to dampen Becky and push Charlotte again.

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    WWE have always been all about Charlotte, though. Becky, let's be honest, was never supposed to catch on like this.

    Personally, I didn't notice what you're saying there, Powder, and would question whether you (and some others who have said similar) are being slightly sensitive in expecting that WWE will put Charlotte over Becky at every opportunity.

    However, if what you're saying is true, WWE could be playing their cards deliberately here - they clearly want to do something with Ronda, Charlotte, and Becky. Now, it might be that they run Ronda vs Charlotte at the Rumble, then Becky vs Ronda at Mania (via a Becky Rumble win). If that's the case, it makes sense to focus in on Charlotte a little bit more to subtly build towards the Rumble match, whilst letting Becky take what would be a very natural groundswell of fan support to continue her heat. Don't forget, we're only three months or so removed from WWE trying to turn Becky heel against Charlotte and it backfiring massively on them because the crowd hated Charlotte - it kind of makes sense for WWE to try and rehabilitate her relationship with the fans, subtly or overtly.

    As a sidebar, I really like that WWE is having the Raw and Smackdown women's rosters continue to crossover. I'm a bit fearful of a soft draft to take Charlotte and Becky off Smackdown and onto Raw, which would damage all the good work the Smackdown women's roster has done recently. Personally I hope they just keep a bit of crossover going. It makes next to no sense that the two shows don't interact with each other, and I'm kind of tired of it. If they've already got dual branded pay per views, why not have some roster fluidity around that?

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    Becky and Charlotte basically ran thru the entire Smackdown roster tho. The IIconics are a dead act because of it. Trade Becky and Charlotte for Sasha and Bayley

    Also, I think we're going to see Becky vs. Charlotte vs Ronda at Mania

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    Quote Originally Posted by LK3185 View Post
    Becky and Charlotte basically ran thru the entire Smackdown roster tho. The IIconics are a dead act because of it. Trade Becky and Charlotte for Sasha and Bayley.
    Thing is, if you do that, you're taking two characters that are hot and at the top of their division, and exchanging them for two who need serious rehabilitation before anybody can really take them seriously at the top of a division. You're essentially leaving the Smackdown women's division with Asuka and not a lot else until those two (or someone else) gets some momentum to challenge her. And, I mean, I want to see Asuka vs Sonya Deville as much as the next person, but let's not pretend for a second that's a match or feud that should be following on from the last 4/5 months where that women's roster has established itself as the hottest thing on either show, to the point where they're main eventing a dual branded, mixed gender pay per view.

    Or what you do is you keep one of your hot acts going on Smackdown, and swap the other for someone on Raw, I suppose. You could do Becky vs Ronda at Mania for the Raw title via Rumble win for the former, and Charlotte vs Asuka II for the Smackdown title. That'll give you room to improve a couple of other people on the undercard on each brand to be ready for the post-Mania season, while keeping the programs on the top of each roster hot for the most important period of the year.

    It's only a three month cycle, and if you twist Charlotte and Becky into your two Rumble contenders because they both want to face Ronda (and yes, I suspect those two will at least be the final four) that's at least the next six weeks of story sorted out into the Rumble on the Smackdown side. And in all honesty - fuck the Raw side. There is nothing interesting they can throw at Ronda there after spending recent months feeding her one person after another whilst the rest of the roster eats itself, and I sincerely hope that she rips Natalya's arm out of it's socket next week and shoves it in her mouth and then basically takes the rest of the month off into the Rumble.

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    Well what about the new woman from Sanity, anikki Cross? Send her to Smackdown, where she could add a spark to the division.

    Also after Mania, call up Shayna Baszler, and send her to Smackdown. Build her up for a few months via, Asuka, Charlotte and Becky. Then you could build to a Rousey/Baszler match or a Horsewoman vs Horsewoman summer slam or Survivor Series match.

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    You have time to build these things up as you say. If they do what I suspect, a triple threat at Mania for the Raw Title (Becky/Charlotte/Ronda), Then you can build up Asuka's challenger in interesting ways and post mania, it wouldn't take that much to rehab Sasha or Bayley since they are both well liked.

    There's going to be a shakeup post mania anyway, with Nikki Cross and Lacey Evans now in the mix. I can't see Charlotte and Becky both on Smackdown post mania. Maybe one but not both. Now if its Ronda vs. Becky only, that changes things but not for the better imo. Becky and Charlotte both have a beef with Ronda. It makes sense to settle it at Mania.

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    But Becky deserves her 1 on 1 with Rousey that she earned but never got, and it should be at Mania. The easy way to do this, have Charlotte vs Ronda at the Rumble, where a Rousey wins, then have Becky wn the Rumble as stated.

    Becky should not have to settle for a triple threat, when she earned and deserves her 1 on 1, and Mania moment.

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    They're not pushing Charlotte to the side.

    And They are not going to have Ronda beat Charlotte clean at the Rumble either. Meaning, they would have to involve someone else anyway for Charlotte to wrestle at Mania.

    Asuka/Charlotte 2 (3 in this case) really doesn't get you anything like building up a new act in Sonya or Mandy by defeating Asuka at Mania would.

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    But why penalize Becky for Nia’s actions? Why should she not receive what she deserves? Charlotte can have another opponent for Mania, like Asuka. And it’s not pushing Charlotte aside. A major title match at Mania is pretty high profile.

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    Any women's match that doesn't involve Ronda at mania is secondary. I don't see Charlotte in that spot. I also don't feel its penalizing Becky if she doesn't get a one on one match with Ronda.

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    I understand why a match NOT against Rousey could be considered secondary, BUT a title match is a major match.

    And it is penalizing Becky. Becky was legit hurt and could not compete, so the WWE went out and correctly put Charlotte into the match. But then they decided to elevate Charlotte over Becky in the process of that match. On the RAW prior to Survivor Series, Becky was white hot, and she still is. Every time Rousey is on screen, the crowd chants for Becky. The crowd made Becky into a star, and the crowd wants Becky vs Rousey 1 on 1.

    By putting Charlotte in to a triple threat match is exactly the same situation that made Becky into the star. When she turned on Charlotte for getting put into her 1 on 1 match for the Women's Title at Summerslam. The story was told, and the WWE should have had Charlotte put up a good fight in her replacement match, but lose cleanly. Like how both Bryan and Styles did against Lesnar.

    Becky gets the second thought treatment again if there is a triple threat at Mania. Have the triple threat on a secondary PPV, like Backlash after Mania, but allow Becky to face Rousey 1 on 1, and to beat Rousey clean.

    I would argue, and no one can really put up a decisive counter argument, that Becky vs Rousey is the biggest match that the WWE could put on this year, based on the crowd's reactions of the past few months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powder View Post
    and no one can really put up a decisive counter argument
    I'm not sure you really get to decide that

    But anyway, Lynch has still been all over twitter the last few weeks. There was that whole thing with Cena which had The Sun in the UK writing about a potential intergender match, and then there was the stuff about not being legacy with Charlotte later in the week.

    People still seem to be lapping it up, mind. Train showing no real sign of slowing down.

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    If Ronda is going part time does that end any chance of Becky headlining wrestlemania? I'm not sure it was ever likely anyway but feels like it kills any chance

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    She should, but I keep hearing that it will now be a triple threat between Ronda, Charlotte and Becky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by For the love of Terry Funk View Post
    If Ronda is going part time does that end any chance of Becky headlining wrestlemania? I'm not sure it was ever likely anyway but feels like it kills any chance
    Why would that end Becky's chances? They don't have a main event worthy match on the men's side. If Ronda is taking time off, you have Becky win clean in the main. Or do some type of angle if its a triple threat.

    Ronda going part time shouldn't mean a Women's main event is off the table. I mean, Brock is part time.

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    According to the main page, Charlotte is going to be added to the Becky/Rousey match.

    BOOOOOOOO!!!

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    Really stupid, tbh. And they wonder why people are tired of Charlotte.

    Now where does that leave Asuka? Mandy Rose? They seem to be pushing her, I guess...

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    Also, why?

    Becky is THE hottest person in wrestling right now, facing off against arguably the biggest or second biggest (possibly second only to Lesnar in household name recognition) name on the card. That match is what everyone wants to see.

    I would bet, and I do not bet, that if/when the WWE adds Charlotte to the match, the crowd boos and potentially turns on the WWE like the BooTista debacle.

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    My speculation is they're doing it so they can have Shayna jump the barricade and try to help Ronda. Triple Threats are no DQ, once Shayna jumps in, you have Sasha/Bayley come down.. in the midst of all the chaos, Becky wins. They end the show with the Four Horsewomen standing tall.

    Its not what I want but i see it happening in my mind

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    In my mind it just makes Beckys win all the better. Having to overcome the UFC badass and Charlotte, the person they frequently tout as The Greatest Woman Wrestler. The person Becky started down this road with. I'm into it. I want the match to be fucking chaos! they could easily have another Daniel Bryan/Mania 30 situation.

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    My speculation is they're doing it so they can have Shayna jump the barricade and try to help Ronda. Triple Threats are no DQ, once Shayna jumps in, you have Sasha/Bayley come down.. in the midst of all the chaos, Becky wins. They end the show with the Four Horsewomen standing tall.

    Its not what I want but i see it happening in my mind
    Would all 4 really be standing tall? Charlotte would more than likely take the pinfall/submission in that scenario and kayfabe wise, I can't see her standing tall next to Becky.

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    Regardless. Rousey needs to take the pinfall.

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    Honestly, here's how you could play this out WITHOUT Charlotte being added into the match. The two womens title matches are Becky vs. Rousey and Charlotte Vs. Asuka. Becky Vs. Rousey can be a No DQ match and it would be completely justified given how personal their rivalry has been and it would also fit Ronda's fighting style as opposed to a traditional match. Now somehow someway at least one of the MMA women could interfere in Charlotte's match with Asuka (when there is a ref bump). What reason? Well, I am sure there could be a backstage segment or a confrontation between Charlotte and perhaps Bazler prior to Mania. Then during the Becky and Ronda match, the MMA women could interfere and then Bayley and Sasha could make the save. of course the numbers game would still be too strong, however Charlotte would then even the odds and Becky would pin/make Ronda submit amidst the chaos.

    This accomplishes a few things:
    1. It keeps Charlotte out of the Ronda/Becky match and allows us to have that one on one match we didn't get at Survivor Series
    2. It gives Asuka something to do other than face Mandy Rose or whatever they have planned
    3. It sets up the MMA vs NXT Horseomen feud
    4. Becky goes over Ronda in the main event.

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    ^That scenario is what everyone would prefer and its been talked about, I just think the triple threat is more likely.. not just because of reports but because last night, they have Charlotte attacking Becky, who is playing the knee injury card. Who wants to bet that Charlotte goads Becky into a match where if she wins, she's added to the Ronda match? If Charlotte loses, it looks kinda weak to pivot and challenge Asuka so she'd def win.

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    I know the main page has a lot of rumors and speculation. One report stated that the plans for Rousey at Mania changed repeatedly because of Becky getting hurt, Nattie's father passing, etc. And the addition of Charlotte to the Main event making the match a triple threat.

    However, with many well respected past performers coming out (Bully Ray and Jim Roos, just to name two) and saying that the Rousey/Becky match should remain one on one and be the main event, and now the main page is reporting that Sports Illustrated is saying exactly that.

    Take that with a grain of salt, but I have said it before, but I will repeat, that the most high profile match that the fans want to see this year, with the arguably the two most over Superstars on the current roster is Ronda Rousey vs Becky Lynch one on one.

    Please keep it that way.

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    Nattie's father passing away, while sad, shouldn't have any sway on what Rousey's plans are. I get they may have been planning a heel turn for Nattie before that happened and obviously you couldn't turn her heel afterwards, but it should not influence or change Becky vs Ronda happening.

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    I know, but unfortunately it did.

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    That's honestly unfair to Becky Lynch.

    Has any other superstar that lost a family member got that treatment? If not, then why Nattie? Because her father was involved in the WWE. Kinda bs if you ask me.

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    Well the original plan was for Nattie to turn on Ronda around SummerSlam, and then move forward with that feud, but Anvil died mid-August. So that plan got pushed aside.

    It would have been in poor taste right then and there, but it could have been done now, 6 months later, but there is a bigger story to tell with Becky.

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    Let's assume they are going with Nattie Vs. Ronda for Mania. Where would that leave Becky? Facing Asuka, again?

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    I don't think Nattie turning would have effected things for mania.. Even WWE knows that Nattie while loyal and dependable is not a top performer. In fact, if Rousey didn't come in, she'd probably have way less of a role. The Becky situation changed with Nia bloodied her face. That's undeniable fact and Becky has cemented it by only growing her base.

    The thing with Charlotte is going to be dragged out to the point everyone is going to think she's being added to the match. Then she either will be or she won't. But we're not going to know for sure for at least another month or so.. (post fastlane)

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    No way is Nattie the Wrestlemania match for Ronda. Don't even think that.

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