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    The PEN15 Memorial Horror Thread

    I liked the name of this on the old board so I thought I'd get it up and running with the same title.

    I'm going to have to leave it to the serious horror-heads to sustain the thread, but I thought I'd mention that I saw a Stephen King adaptation is in pre-production. Another version of Pet Sematary, due out next year. Presumably Tasha Yar won't be in this one.

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    I know it's only just been announced, but I am excited to see how the new Jordan Peele movie shapes up.

    Announced as a 'new nightmare' the other day, the movie is called 'Us'. The only people linked to it have been Lupita Nyong’o, Elisabeth Moss and Winston Duke, and set for release in 2019.

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    After Get Out, I'm ready for anything Peele can put together. I'm afraid a target will be on the back of the film though, there was already backlash from some about Get Out being nominated for an Oscar for not being "the right kind of film".

    I'm down for a better version of Pet Sematary, I didn't dislike the more famous version but I think a better one can be done. What I want most is for it to include the scene where the protagonist goes back to the burial ground on his own and encounters that nightmarish creature in the mist. Actually, what I want MOST is for a Stephen King Cinematic Universe to exist, something that connects his films the same way many of his books have subtle connections.

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    I am so sick of Hollywood remaking films that do not need remakes. No need to remake Pet Semetary. Just come up with a new idea. I am going to see A Quiet Place tomorrow. Hopefully it is good.

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    How are the horror fans feeling about the remake of Suspiria, now the trailer is out?

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    Never heard of it, but a little googling has piqued my interest!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prime Time View Post
    How are the horror fans feeling about the remake of Suspiria, now the trailer is out?
    Uggggghhhh. Whhhhhhhy? It's like when a band covers a Led Zeppelin song, you just know it is completely impossible for them to match or top the original.

    Widely regarded as one of the single greatest horror movies ever made, by a legendary horror director. This remake has no hopes but to be a cheap knock off. And it kinda makes me sad that they're even trying.

    I'm most looking forward to Hereditary. I'm hearing some eye opening reviews from some very respected horror critics.


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    The original is that good? I'm gonna have to put it on my list!

    Yeah, Hereditary is something I'm definitely gonna have to try to see. Upgrade looks like it might be good too.

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    What are everyone's thoughts on the new Halloween movie trailer now that it has been released?
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    Gotta admit, I didn't watch it. Was put off by the Rob Zombie films and at this point I'm leaning towards leaving the memories alone. Might give it a look eventually but my hype is not that strong right now.

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    I see there's another one coming out, so what do people think of The Purge movies?

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    I've never seen one, but at some point I'll probably give them a look. Would be curious to know if they are more survival/thriller style or just lingering shots of people being tortured in horrible ways with no hope of escape.

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    The Purge franchise is remarkably good. The first one was original and pretty damn good.

    Purge 2: Anarchy was effective and expanded on the original, but not as good.

    Election Year also was good. Again not great, and explained more, but was effective as a third part of the series.

    The First Purge looks interesting, and I think it will be more political than the other three.

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    So.... anyone watched Babadook? Wanna get philosophical with me?


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    I really liked that movie!! What've you got to say about it?

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    For anyone who hasn't seen it yet, watch it! It will make you do a lot of thinking after the credits. Arguably one of the better horror movies to come out in the past couple decades. The way it character builds, the nuances, sounds, pacing are all superb. There are a couple goofy shots (like the CGI filled bedroom scene) but they are very few and far between, which is great considering they worked with a much, much smaller budget than most Horror films do. The experience alone makes it a must watch for anyone who claims to be a fan of the horror genre.








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    Okay. So I know what the ending/overall meaning of the movie is supposed to be. Though left open to interpretation, it is the physical manifestation of grief. Though I picked up on an alternate meaning, and it seems almost too fitting to be a coincedence. I wonder if they left the movie open like this in spots specifically to draw parallels like this, but the end made me think that the woman was actually suffering from Schizophrenia, and killed her son.


    There is a scene right at the end, and I have to watch it again to confirm what I thought I saw, but in the garden, as she is planting, the first split second of that shot is underground, and it appears to very briefly show small human remains. This is the shot right before the magic trick at the end.


    If you notice, after the final showdown in the house, when Babadook retreats to the basement, every scene after that is shot with a seemingly different lens than all the scenes before- almost a glossy, light capturing, dream sequence lens. It is most noticeable in the shot of her picking up her son from the neighbor ladies house, and the final shot, the magic trick scene. And if you look at her face while she is hugging her son at the very end, you can see that she is a mixture of happy, unhinged, and almost remorseful. That fits for both endings, but it works too well within the schizo narrative. Like she was almost relieved to know that he was dead, and she only had to revisit him in her memories, as if she blames everything wrong in her world on that poor boy. Like she can finally look back at him fondly now that she doesnt have to deal with him anymore.

    And her face. People say she looked happy, I say, considering that scene is supposed to be in the midst of the most peaceful/happy moments of her life since her husband died, she looks pretty ragged still. Bags under eyes, puffy like she was crying, she still looks burnt out and stressed. Like the demon is definitely still there, and perhaps she only took back control of herself and her life when she killed her son, which we as the audience mistake as the moment when she protects her son, and drives Babadook away. Babadook only lessens because she finally killed him. Babadook was her anger and resentment towards who she thought ruined her perfect existence. Her son.


    Edit: I also forgot to mention the parallel between her gardening where she was, collecting the worms, and then feeding Babadook in her basement. It is almost as if she annually digs up her son to keep her anger at bay- a physical representation to prove to her own inner demons that her son is gone. Then she goes to the room filled with her husbands stuff in that moment to think back fondly on her husband- a time where finally she can think about him, a time that cannot be tainted by her son any longer. She dares not ever enter that room while her son was alive. Now that he is dead, she can finally do so (relatively) peacefully
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    A Quiet Place- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!



    I just watched this, and all I'm gonna say, is a parent didn't write this.


    As a parent the suspense is completely ruined. Numerous times. Tons of plot holes. Some good moments, but if you're a parent this is more comedy than anything.



    P.s. babies cry....



    A lot.





    P.p.s toddlers suck. Loudest beings in Earth's history.


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    So.... (crickets) anyone else like horror movies?



    I watched 2 within the last 5 days or so, The Descent and IT.



    Descent was pretty damn good. The suspense was awesome, character development was a bit lacking, but the creatures were done really well. Only a few ugh moments. It seems every movie now, especially horror, has one cringeworthy CGI scene. This movie was no exception, but overall this movie is 100% worth watching as a horror fan. Edit: I will say though, I've only seen the US ending, as apparently there are two endings to the movie. I will say the US ending is disjointed and not great. I'll have to check out the other ending, as I've heard it is as the movie was intended originally.



    IT. I was really, really skeptical of this remake. I LOVE Tim Curry, so seeing them remake anything he was in is asking a lot. Having said that I loved this movie. Minus the above mentioned awful CGI scene, this movie exceeded expectations big time. Tim Curry was a much better Pennywise, however Skarsgard did a very good job making the clown his own. And the movie overall is great. Highly recommended. Though as a warning to parents, this movie will touch on some of your biggest fears. I look forward to the sequel for sure. I hope they jump ahead 30+ years and have the characters reprise their roles as parents.
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    The sequel to IT will jump 30 years into the future, with the kids reprising their roles.


    Also Slender Man was terrible, do not waste your time.

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    I saw they are calling this house with a clock in it's wall things a 'starter horror movie'. Thoughts?

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    No way. It looks like a Goosebumps Movie but not Goosebumps. The trailers are geared at kids from 8-14. Both of my daughters who are 11 and 13 want to see it. It is NOT in any way a starter horror movie.

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    I saw US over the past weekend, and while I liked the overall concept, I thought it was just meh. It was not scary, not suspenseful, and was not a overall a good horror movie. They had humor in all the wrong spots, and it lacked something. Get Out kept you on your toes, while Us just seemed just meh. The twist at the end completely undid everything about the concept of movie. While I know that in horror movies, you want a twist, but this one changes literally everything and makes the point of the movie go away.

    I'd wait for cable or Netflix.

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    Prime, with Pen15 now back on the forums, can we rename the thread the PEN15v2 Memorial .....

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    It's not a memorial if he's around, dummy.

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    LOL
    Wow. I never expected this to still be around. I'm truly laughing out loud.

    I'll share a nice story that I'm hoping fans here will enjoy. For my 37th birthday, my GF surprised me by renting out a local repertory cinema. I was Ubered to the location, and when I got there, there were posters for "Joe's Birthday Screening of SLEEPAWAY CAMP". And I was already blown away. To get the theater, it had to be screened at 10AM on a Saturday, to avoid the theater losing money from their normal fares. So I walk through the lobby, waving at the employees I recognized. As I walked into the actual theater, I discover that a dozen of my friends and family were sitting and waiting for me. A 10 year old nephew who lives 5-6 hours away was the first face I saw, and I was speechless. In a very Ric Flair moment, I had a tear in my eye as I saw my sister with all her kids, cousins, friends from work, and my parents. If I'm turning 37, they are obviously not young. Other than my sister and 2 nephews, none of them are horror fans, nevermind straight to video 8s slashers. And they were here to watch a cheesy camp movie with a scene involving a curling iron shoved in a teenagers vag!? And whoever knows the movie knows that the surprise ending was going to take these very innocent people for a loop.

    Hands down, best birthday ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T.O. View Post
    It's not a memorial if he's around, dummy.
    Version 1 is gone..so it still is memorial....

    Quote Originally Posted by PEN15v2 View Post
    LOL
    Wow. I never expected this to still be around. I'm truly laughing out loud.

    I'll share a nice story that I'm hoping fans here will enjoy. For my 37th birthday, my GF surprised me by renting out a local repertory cinema. I was Ubered to the location, and when I got there, there were posters for "Joe's Birthday Screening of SLEEPAWAY CAMP". And I was already blown away. To get the theater, it had to be screened at 10AM on a Saturday, to avoid the theater losing money from their normal fares. So I walk through the lobby, waving at the employees I recognized. As I walked into the actual theater, I discover that a dozen of my friends and family were sitting and waiting for me. A 10 year old nephew who lives 5-6 hours away was the first face I saw, and I was speechless. In a very Ric Flair moment, I had a tear in my eye as I saw my sister with all her kids, cousins, friends from work, and my parents. If I'm turning 37, they are obviously not young. Other than my sister and 2 nephews, none of them are horror fans, nevermind straight to video 8s slashers. And they were here to watch a cheesy camp movie with a scene involving a curling iron shoved in a teenagers vag!? And whoever knows the movie knows that the surprise ending was going to take these very innocent people for a loop.

    Hands down, best birthday ever.
    And the surprise ending is that Angela was played by TO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powder View Post
    Version 1 is gone..so it still is memorial....

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    Which is exactly why I'm not going to change it to a memorial thread for v2, because it's v1 that's gone.

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    Currently listening to the Doctor Sleep audiobook. With the movie coming out this fall/waiter, I figured I should catch up. I didn't care for the Shining book much, with the movie being even worse. But Doctor Sleep is so far amazing. I kind of gave up on Stephen king except for the Dark Tower books in the mid-90s. Maybe I need to try a couple of others from since then to see if I've been missing out.

    Should be seeing Child's Play this weekend. I know most online fans tend to hate remakes, but I always go in with an open mind and see if it'll be good.

    So far, I think Us or Ma was the best horror of 2019.

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    The thing about Stephen King is he hasn't written his own books in years- he has ghost writers who do the vast majority of the writing, while he just comes up with a loose outline.

    I think Child's Play could be good, actually. Mark Hamil is the most perfect voice over ever for Chucky, so at least it has that going for it.

    I'm really, really, really surprised to see Us listed as a top horror movie by anyone, honestly. I just watched it and was so beyond disappointed. Such crap. Plot was filled with gaping, massive holes. Suspension of disbelief is utterly impossible. There's just no reality to anchor the horror to. I even think Birdbox is better, and Birdbox was pretty meh. For me, The Haunting Of Hill House is effortlessly, hands down the best Horror related movie or show of the past year, and nothing is even in the same stratosphere.

    I'll have to check out Ma though. I've heard multiple positive reviews.
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    Just introduced my 12 year old horror movie fan daughter to Friday the 13th, and the movie did not hold up that well. But it was still a nice twist at the end of the killer being Mrs. Vorhees.

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    IT chapter 2. It was long but it didn’t feel like 2hrs and 45 minutes. It was not scary, but it had jump scares and all of the “scary” parts turned out to be more funny than scary. I just hope it was intentional because if not...oops. But it was good. Really enjoyable but not great.

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